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Sange
# Posted: 24 Feb 2011 13:41
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Scott and Eric- our local campaign has been going on for over 2 years and had much local media coverage, some of the links to which are on our website. The website was set up by one of our supporters and is genuine.
I've been in correspondence with Agnes from this site who at the last time of speaking was totally behind us with the London protest.

Comments regarding the protest being naive and misguided are so negative and unhelpful. I wouldn't have publicised my personal details and encouraged people to pass them on if I and the protest were not genuine.

Surely we need something to band all protest groups together- and put pressure on the government to update Planning and Safety guidelines? The London march/rally is an genuine attempt to do this.

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 24 Feb 2011 13:53
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I say what I say because I don't like to see us - as ES sufferers or those who are fighting these masts - to be made to look foolish, and given information that is not really founded on anything substantial and flies in the face of the evidence. Where I completely disagree with Scott is that it is in any way not a genuine campaign. It obviously is!

We do need to campaign. We do need to take a stand against this, and pressure the government to stop the madness. But we also need to be fully aware of the facts, the current situation, and how these people operate. The cynicism with which they treat the subject, and the reluctance to act, the readiness to silence anyone who dares talk about the matter in public. Putting so much hope on an individual with neglible influence in the process, and with limited powers to do anything concrete, is naive. It is understandable, especially when we are so desperate to be helped to fight this huge injustice.

There are different perspectives to this; sufferers - chronic sufferers whose lives are being strangled and destroyed in every imaginable way by EMRs, then residents and parents terrified of the health effects of masts and mobiles but not themselves suffering, and others who simply object to the ramifications of all this technology and the lack of democracy involved.

Personally, I could say I don't find it helpful as a chronic EHS sufferer to be ignored for most of the year, and then expected to champion a single protest which ill people have no possible way of attending. People like me are the unseen results of phone masts. I don't want the protest to be seen by the gov't and media is just another protest like the student/tuition fees business, or foxhunting, or a march on Parliament by a bunch of NIMBYs. Placing blind faith in the good-nature of politicians and pressure groups leaves you open to being misrepresented. Scott's (unfair) reaction to your website shows the potential is there for misunderstanding.

That is harsh, perhaps, but from my viewpoint it is easy to see it like that.

EG.

Sange
# Posted: 24 Feb 2011 14:00
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Who wants to look foolish?
Brian Stein must be known to you surely? He is helping us organise the protest and arrange the speakers- experts in their field.
This could be huge, but we need everyone to get behind it, support it and spread the word.

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 24 Feb 2011 14:07
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I support the idea of the protest, and yes if Brian Stein is involved it will bring some credibility to it. Just don't believe what people like Chris Maile are saying about sympathetic attitudes. You simply have to grind them down with the weight of evidence against this technology - appealing to their humanity will get nowhere.

As I said before, the best of luck.

EG.

Proud of Twerton
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# Posted: 24 Feb 2011 23:21
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It's such an awful situation. Can't you get the Green Party on board or something? It always seems that the main political parties embrace green policies if they think they are losing votes to the Greens.

microscott
# Posted: 25 Feb 2011 10:17
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Eric,
I'm off, mate. Nearly got sectioned last night. This obsession is waring me out more than the disease. I need to get a life. I have found this forum extremely useful in dealing with my problem and quite enlightening about the state of politics in this country. I need to find a way to deal with this shit on a personal level now or I will be sectioned.
Good to talk to you,
Scott.

Sange
# Posted: 25 Feb 2011 10:23
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Good idea PoT... will liaise with Brian Stein and see if he can be our voice to add more credibility as EG said.

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 25 Feb 2011 20:13
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I'm off, mate. Nearly got sectioned last night. This obsession is waring me out more than the disease. I need to get a life.

Ah, I was struggling to follow you lately but with those six little words has the game been given away? First the all-out attack on Sange's protest plans, and now this.

Nobody gets sectioned because of EHS or EMR-induced symptoms. We get ignored, or silenced, or rubbished, or branded this-and-that, but unless there's far more to your story, it doesn't happen.

EG.

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 11 May 2011 18:38
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Ignoring the spam above, (now removed by admin) I would to like to ask the rhetorical question (directed at the Government) - how are Everything Everywhere and a chinese company specialising in phone mast technology being allowed to do deals to ramp up the EMR levels of all their masts in the UK....without any input from Parliament?

EG.

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