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agnes
# Posted: 30 Nov 2009 02:21
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Hi all.
Again a new issue for debate.
First we have the coming WI-Fi´isation of Swindon:
http://www.mast-victims.org/index.php?content=news&page=2

And Alasdair Philips of Powerwatch answer to the article in the same paper:
http://www.mast-victims.org/index.php?content=news&action=view&type=newsitem&id=4454

Mrs. Jacqueline Edwards (formerly of Glastonbury) has bravely answered
Mr. Philips article with a readers letter in the Daily Mail.
I have put her letter into our victims stories in hope that many of you who have experienced similar will take action and write comments and take part in the debate.
Her story is here:
http://www.mast-victims.org/index.php?content=journal&action=edit&type=journal#entry_ 541

Best regards.
Agnes Ingvarsdottir.
www.mast-victims.org

Chloe
# Posted: 15 Dec 2009 20:09
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WIFI TOWNS

AVOID SOUTH RIBBLE, LEYLAND AND CHORLEY IN LANCASHIRE

I am already electrosensitive and I find this latest news about blanket wifi coverage alarming!

Avoid moving to Leyland and Chorley in Lancashire.
The local South Ribble Borough announced last year that it intends to introduce a wifi strip across the town.

Now, the David Borrow MP and Lindsey Hoyle MP are trying to get wifi across South Ribble Borough and Chorley Borough. even worse still, they are trying to get WiFi across the whole of Lancashire.
See the Early Day Motion

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IN the online version of the Lancashire Evening Post 14.12.2009

Call for free internet for whole county
Lancashire Evening Post
Published Date: 14 December 2009

A Parliamentary campaign has been launched to make Lancashire Britain's first wifi county by rolling out free internet access to the entire population.

MPs say free wifi access would have "countless benefits" for businesses, residents and students and provide a huge economic boost.

The suggestion has been made in an Early Day Motion tabled by Chorley MP Lindsay Hoyle and signed by South Ribble MP David Borrow and Ribble Valley MP Nigel Evans.

The MPs want Lancashire County Council and the district councils to follow the example of Swindon borough council, which plans to offer free internet access to its residents.

No one within the borough boundary will be out of range of a wireless connection after April next year, when 1,400 access points will be placed on street lamps.

Mr Hoyle believes Swindon has drawn up a model which should be repeated. His EDM asks the government to back "forward thinking" projects elsewhere.


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EARLY DAY MOTION
403 FREE BROADBAND ACCESS IN TOWNS 8:12:09

Mr Lindsay Hoyle
Mr David Crausby
Jim Dobbin
Mr David S. Borrow
Mr Nigel Evans
Mr Mike Hancock

* 20

Mrs Ann Cryer

That this House calls for Chorley Borough Council, Lancashire County Council and other authorities in Lancashire to replicate the ambitious and forward thinking project launch by Swindon Borough Council to provide free broadband access to all residents; notes that Swindon is the first town in the UK to initiate such a valuable project; acknowledges the scheme's provision of low connection speeds for free, pay as you go options for visitors and faster services for prices below market rates; recognises the countless benefits for businesses, consumers, young people and students being able to stay connected more easily; and asks the Government to support such schemes that are in line with their vision of universal broadband access by 2012

Chloe
# Posted: 15 Dec 2009 22:33
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URL for the lancashire Evening Post letter
http://www.lep.co.uk/news/Call-for-free-internet-for.5908540.jp

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 15 Dec 2009 23:03
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the countless benefits for businesses, consumers, young people and students being able to stay connected more easily

..and nevermind what it does to anyone else. Same old story. Unbelievable. All this rubbish about "valuable projects" and "forward thinking".

I'd find it all laughable if it wasn't so serious, and wrecking my life and health, not to mentions thousands (if not millions) of others.

EG.

Anonymous
# Posted: 21 Dec 2009 21:35
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MPs and local councillors get regularly 'brainwashed' by the mobile operators.

Agnes
# Posted: 22 Dec 2009 17:35
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Here is more on "Smart Meter"/Wi-Fi
http://www.mast-victims.org/index.php?content=news&action=view&type=newsitem&id=4500

This looks more and more like a total Horror Story!

LANCASHIRE RESIDENT
# Posted: 4 May 2010 20:21
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AN ELECTION QUESTION MESSAGE TO EHS SUFFERERS -
DOES YOUR MP WANT TO SUBJECT YOU TO FREE-WIFI 24/7/365?

I would like to remind all EHS sufferers and their families that these MPs who are standing for elections on Thursday this week want to blast everyone with 'free wifi' - from transmitters on lamp posts across Lancashire.
They intially propose in the EDM 403 that the wifi is installed in Chorley, South Ribble and Ribble Valley boroughs. BUT they want to extend the wifi to across the WHOLE OF LANCASHIRE.

Not all of those on the list are MPs for Lancashire boroughs.
Is your MP on the list?

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EARLY DAY MOTION 403
Here are the MPs who proposed the EDM 403:
HOYLE, Lindsay
CRAUSBY, David
DOBBIN, Jim
BORROW, David S
EVANS, Nigel
Hancock, Mike

These MPs have also signed the EDM and do not give a toss about your health with 24/7/365 wifi exposure from lamp posts near where you live:

Prentice, Gordon
Simpson, David
Jones, Lynne
McCrea, Dr William
McDonnell, John
Campbell, Gregory
Campbell, Ronnie
Corbyn, Jeremy
Bottomley, Peter
MacNeil, Angus
Illsley, Eric
Jenkins, Brian
Pelling, Andrew
Cryer, Ann
Cummings, John
Swinson, Jo
Pope, Greg
Simpson, Alan
Anderson, Janet
Source: http://edmi.parliament.uk/EDMi/EDMDetails.aspx?EDMID=39965&SESSION=903

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Newspaper article
Source: Lancashire Evening Post
Call for free internet for whole county [Lancashire]

A Parliamentary campaign has been launched to make Lancashire Britain's first wifi county by rolling out free internet access to the entire population.
MPs say free wifi access would have "countless benefits" for businesses, residents and students and provide a huge economic boost.

The suggestion has been made in an Early Day Motion tabled by Chorley MP Lindsay Hoyle and signed by South Ribble MP David Borrow and Ribble Valley MP Nigel Evans.

The MPs want Lancashire County Council and the district councils to follow the example of Swindon borough council, which plans to offer free internet access to its residents.

No one within the borough boundary will be out of range of a wireless connection after April next year, when 1,400 access points will be placed on street lamps.

Mr Hoyle believes Swindon has drawn up a model which should be repeated. His EDM asks the government to back "forward thinking" projects elsewhere.

I SHALL NOT BE VOTING FOR MY LABOUR MP!!
DAVID S. BORROW

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 17 May 2010 01:42
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Interestingly, there was an article in the Sunday Times last week which reported on the abnormal rate of fresh severe-disability claimants concentrated in comparitively wealthy parts of Swindon. Cases of mental health problems and general poor health have risen several times over in the last 10 years, much higher than the rest of the UK.

This was, of course, put down to the fall-out created by the recession, and loss of jobs in the area.

Hmm.

EG.

anne
# Posted: 7 Jul 2010 23:31
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Unfortunately the effects of the recession will cloud any conclusions about the increase in mental illness.
The fact is that mental illness and related nervous conditions have been on the increase over many years especially since 2000, but this will be explained as due to the recession rather than the increase in microwave technologies.
So we are still a long way off influencing the 'powers that be' to do anything about microwave smog!
Little do they (government) realise that by reducing the use of microwave technologies will save them a great deal of money on disability claims! Because if people feel like I do when I get exposed to microwaves they become ill and go on benefits because they cannot work.

anne
# Posted: 7 Jul 2010 23:32
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Unfortunately the effects of the recession will cloud any conclusions about the increase in mental illness.
The fact is that mental illness and related nervous conditions have been on the increase over many years especially since 2000, but this will be explained as due to the recession rather than the increase in microwave technologies.
So we are still a long way off influencing the 'powers that be' to do anything about microwave smog!
Little do they (government) realise that by reducing the use of microwave technologies will save them a great deal of money on disability claims! Because if people feel like I do when I get exposed to microwaves they become ill and go on benefits because they cannot work.

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 8 Jul 2010 00:30
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I agree, Anne...and a part of me wonders whether the previous Government knowingly created a situation (ie calamitous economic uncertainty) to allow this clouding of conclusions. It gives them an excuse for all manner of developments...for instance, no fewer than 6 or 7 properties in close promixity to the mast which is runing my health/life have gone up for sale in the past 6 months...and 3 of those in the past month, when the mast signal was augmented.

Ah, but that's the recession biting, they will say. People are having to sell their homes.

Except none of the houses further away from the mast have gone on the market.

EG.

spinneyhorse
# Posted: 5 Sep 2011 19:29
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http://www.es-uk.info/forums/thread.asp?threadID=587

Anonymous
# Posted: 22 Dec 2011 16:54
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I am reporting this mobile industry advertising [again] to webmaster.
It is an abuse of this forum.

Anonymous
# Posted: 22 Dec 2011 17:00
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Spinneyhorse -
Sorry last posting was aimed at Phonix11 for another posting - not you - clicked twice instead of once.

Hope never dies
# Posted: 8 May 2013 17:45
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ok so I thought they were doing it for the money , but what is in it for them to get everywhere covered free of charge ??

ES
# Posted: 8 May 2013 19:00
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@ Hope never dies

WiFi is promoted as being good for businesses, school children and
college students. It will help towns to redevelop and grow.
In some regions there is WIMAX which is even worse.

Tourist boards recommend hotels to instal WiFi - so customers can surf the internet etc on holiday, staying on business.

Most places you go into have Wifi. British Telecom [BT] supplies DECT cordless phones and WiFi as standard with its Home Hub. Note that, unless you deliberately opt out, you are automatically opted into allowing part of your WiFi to be broadcast outside the property.
The idea is that you allow part of your allocation to be used and you can then yourself surf the net using areas of free WiFi elsewhere.
There are other suppliers. Virgin is one of them and they also automatically install WiFi.

So, effectively the street is getting covered with WiFi 24/7.

We still have a traditional hard-wired phone and use hard-wired Ethernet computer connections,

Look at the top of the street lighting and you will see antennae for WiFi - so street lighting can be remotely controlled.
The bus shelters have antennae - so that you can know the time of the next bus. The same at railway stations.

Telemedicine - WiiFi in the hospitals and clinics.

The latest phones can produce their own WiFi - it is really bad.

There is no thought for those who are harmed by the technology.

ES

Henrik
Admin
# Posted: 8 May 2013 20:21
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ES,

"Note that, unless you deliberately opt out, you are automatically opted into allowing part of your WiFi to be broadcast outside the property."

Oh, that's marvelous. So anyone can sit outside your fence and download illegal content via your connection...

Anonymous
# Posted: 8 May 2013 22:33
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Henrik

Yes. They could.

Initially, you had to opt in for the WiFi sharing, then later BT changed the rules and you have to formally opt out in writing.
Look up BTFon and you can find out where there are free WiFi hotspots.

Anywhere, any time, you can sit down by the roadside and surf the Internet. The college students can go to the local park and surf.
Local trades people wander up the street to get the best signal.

Torment
# Posted: 6 Dec 2013 23:17
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Can anyone tell me how to find out when broadband came to the valley where I live please. I have asked BT and they say they don't know and that Open Reach don't talk to the public....residents say they can't remember exactly, there's nothing recorded (that I can find) in the local paper. I would have thought it was a matter of public record.

I live in the English Lake District in the Ullswater lake valley, some of the villages in the valley are Pooley Bridge, Glenridding, Patterdale. The nearest town is Penrith, Cumbria.

Any help or advice would be very gratefully received.

ES
# Posted: 28 Feb 2014 17:00
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CHORLEY, LANCASHIRE
The latest addition to an already badly polluted town 24/7 CCTV.
http://www.chorley-guardian.co.uk/news/local/cctv-provision-is-looked-at-by-councillo rs-1-6454726

Chorley is better avoided, especially if EHS, keep well away!

ES
# Posted: 10 Apr 2014 23:23
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FORMBY See article about WiFi through Formby plan
Eileen O'Connor's campaign against the wifi is on the front page of TheChampion[free newspaperthroughout Merseyside

HOW DARE THEY!
Formby anti–radiation campaigner
hits out at village centre Wi–Fi plans.

Download here:

http://www.champnews.com/papers/pdf/F1514.pdf

I wish Eileen every success

ES
# Posted: 11 Apr 2014 19:54
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@Torment from ES
My response is delayed as I have been in hospital a long time.
perhaps ask local/ parishcouncil members?and did they have any presentations from BT?
you area is beautiful, or it was in my younger fitter days. I am EHS.
I cannot tolerate wi-fi

do this search

broadband+BT +ullswater
and similar searches with the other relevant place names

try also looking up free wifi BT Open Zone
good luck.
ES

Torment
# Posted: 16 Apr 2014 19:31
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ES....thankyou for your advice I found this
http://chris4copeland.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/superfast-broadband-comes-to-cumbria.htm l...

I will continue searching

Historic signing on broadband agreement.....what do they think it is the Magna Carta....that's my MP in the middle Rory Stewart....my home overlooks the valley with this lake in...oh and you can see the Ullswater Steamer in the background.....shame it's all being polluted with wifi.

Broadband is one of local councillors fav things....don't know I didn't think of asking before....in my defense I am so battered and bruised by all things wifi that I can barely think or function in any way.....not having a good day. Wednesday and we are all treated to a mega blasting around lunch time....and I have not recovered yet.

Torment
# Posted: 16 Apr 2014 19:44
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Apologies the link didn't work properly....I copied the right thing and there it wasn't when I put the link on here....I'll try again.

http://chris4copeland.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/superfast-broadband-comes-to-cumbria.htm l

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 17 Apr 2014 03:36
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Society's stupidity knows no bounds. Look at that grinning idiot. These people are ruining our lives and our world. But nevermind, we can get faster and faster broadband to.....er, do what exactly. Watch films, sport, You Tube videos and porn? Oh great, where do I sign up?

Future generations - if we get that far! - will look back on this time and wonder what the hell everyone was thinking.....putting the health and ability of the human race to function at such a risk for nothing more than greed.

EG.

Torment
# Posted: 17 Apr 2014 11:08
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As for future generations, for anyone who doesn't already know...in experiments on mice they have become irreversibly sterile within five generations..when exposed to wifi.

The same could happen to humans....so perhaps there is no future for us at all if these stupid money grubbing organisations carry on poisoning us.

Olle Johansson Phd announcing Seletun Scientific Statement....

http://vimeo.com/18018440

Torment
# Posted: 5 May 2014 11:52
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I have found something else today...a little more information....

http://www.rorystewart.co.uk/village-hall-led-revolution/

Torment
# Posted: 24 Jun 2014 13:05
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Has everyone seen this.....Whirling WiFi vibrant images reveal wireless networks sweep and surround us.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2662507/Whirling-Wi-Fi-Vibrant-images- reveal-wireless-networks-sweep-surround-us.html

torment
# Posted: 26 Jul 2014 12:25
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I suppose we already had the capability but how outrageously stupid is this...they might as well have had the children smoking cigarettes in the back seat and portraying it as normal.....and ho look, holding their devices in their laps. Beginning to think the conspiracy..ists are right...they must be trying to destroy our DNA...Hey, humans will be all but sterile in a hundred and fifty years if Olle Johhanson is right....then the lizards can take over the world.....MMMMrrrrrrrHAHAHA. (devilish laughter if you were wondering!).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT5aoxQiXxM&list=UUDlTucsLlXBdCcM36U2Vszw

And I saw the latest advert last evening from EE....portraying mobiles phones almost as if they are family friends....and they said something like "more power than you think" Does this mean they are exceeding the guideline levels? Yes, I know they are a joke anyway.

ES
# Posted: 29 Jul 2014 18:40
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EAST LANCS

Pendle is set to become the first borough in Lancashire to install free Wi-Fi in its town centre.

Wi-Fi will be installed in Barnoldswickand then Colne, as two pilot areas, before hopefully being rolled ou tto other towns such as Nelson, Barrowford and Earby

Source: Lancashire Evening Post29/7/2014

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