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GK1
# Posted: 23 Jan 2010 11:37
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This is the person that we are all up against in the UK!

http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/staff/profile/default.aspx?go=10361

http://www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/departments/?locator=364&context=975#item01

This is his sponsor below

http://www.mthr.org.uk/index.htm

Anonymous
# Posted: 24 Jan 2010 22:49
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Rubin and Wesseley Kings College London
Co-authors of the electrosensitivity papers.

Involved in the mobile industry funded research [MTRH]
Involved in military/security related research

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http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/KingsLondon?query=Rubin

http://66.102.9.132/u/KingsLondon?q=cache:qEfDKrNkklQJ:www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/staff/defaul t.aspx%3Fgo%3D10361+Rubin&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&ie=UTF-8

Dr James Rubin BSc PGCAP MSc PhD
James has been a researcher at the Institute of Psychiatry since 1999 and was awarded his PhD in psychology as applied to medicine in 2003 for his work on psychological factors affecting recovery from surgery. His research interests have since expanded to encompass the causes and treatment of the various modern illnesses that afflict Western societies, such electrosensitivity and multiple chemical sensitivity, and the psychological impact of terrorism or major public health incidents.

James is in charge of the day to day running of the Mobile Phone Research Unit at Kings College London and is also the co-ordinator for a programme of research into potential public reactions to chemical, biological or radiological terrorism. He currently holds a National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) Career Development Fellowship, which will allow him to study public reactions to any future major incidents which occur in the UK. He has previously studied how the general public reacted to the 7 July London bombings, the polonium 210 incident, and the outbreak of swine flu , and has won awards for his work in this area.

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Simon Wesseley

http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/KingsLondon?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Wesseley

Post traumatic stress disorder in Iraq veterans
Simon Wesseley of the Centre for Military Health Research at the Institute of Psychiatry appeared in a feature on territorial army personnel returning from the Iraq war. He talked about studies which are being carried out to monitor Iraq veterans for post traumatic stress disorder. Simon Wesseley also contributed to a House of Lords hearing into Gulf War Syndrome.

Anonymous
# Posted: 24 Jan 2010 22:51
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Rubin and Wesseley Kings College London
Co-authors of the electrosensitivity papers.

Involved in the mobile industry funded research [MTRH]
Involved in military/security related research

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http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/KingsLondon?query=Rubin

http://66.102.9.132/u/KingsLondon?q=cache:qEfDKrNkklQJ:www.iop.kcl.ac.uk/staff/defaul t.aspx%3Fgo%3D10361+Rubin&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&ie=UTF-8

Dr James Rubin BSc PGCAP MSc PhD
James has been a researcher at the Institute of Psychiatry since 1999 and was awarded his PhD in psychology as applied to medicine in 2003 for his work on psychological factors affecting recovery from surgery. His research interests have since expanded to encompass the causes and treatment of the various modern illnesses that afflict Western societies, such electrosensitivity and multiple chemical sensitivity, and the psychological impact of terrorism or major public health incidents.

James is in charge of the day to day running of the Mobile Phone Research Unit at Kings College London and is also the co-ordinator for a programme of research into potential public reactions to chemical, biological or radiological terrorism. He currently holds a National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) Career Development Fellowship, which will allow him to study public reactions to any future major incidents which occur in the UK. He has previously studied how the general public reacted to the 7 July London bombings, the polonium 210 incident, and the outbreak of swine flu , and has won awards for his work in this area.

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Simon Wesseley

http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/KingsLondon?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=Wesseley

Post traumatic stress disorder in Iraq veterans
Simon Wesseley of the Centre for Military Health Research at the Institute of Psychiatry appeared in a feature on territorial army personnel returning from the Iraq war. He talked about studies which are being carried out to monitor Iraq veterans for post traumatic stress disorder. Simon Wesseley also contributed to a House of Lords hearing into Gulf War Syndrome.

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 24 Jan 2010 23:48
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I cannot believe that little **** Wesseley is in on this EHS cover-up/dismissal as well as the other things he's spent his career denying exist.

EG.

Anonymous
# Posted: 25 Jan 2010 12:43
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Ericgeneric

Look here: http://freepage.twoday.net/stories/3201200/

"Rubin's boss is Simon Wessely, but let's not be prejudiced. It's just that Wesseley's agenda on MCS, ME on GWS and on EHS is that "idiopathic environmental intolerance" can be wished away with cognitive behavioural therapy. The most disturbing fact about the Wessely approach is that he has been funded by insurance companies, which is ideal in the case of GWS. Martin Walker ("Skewed") tells some disturbing accounts of the effects on people's lives and health of misinterpreting ME (a subject on which you should look up the Countess of Mar as a protagonist vs Wessely). "

[My comment = Skewed is well worth reading]

They did a review
http://www.psychosomaticmedicine.org/cgi/content/abstract/67/2/224
Psychosomatic Medicine 67:224-232 (2005)
G. James Rubin, PhD, Jayati Das Munshi, MBBS and Simon Wessely, MD

Then they did a highly flawed study of their own in the psychiatry department:
BMJ 2006;332:886-891 (15 April), (published 6 March 2006)
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/332/7546/886
G J Rubin, G Hahn, Brian S Everitt, A J Cleare, S Wessely

Kings College London is also heavily into mobile telecommunications research in the electrical engineering department. If I recall correctly, the engineers were involved with TETRA research some years ago?

Anonymous
# Posted: 25 Jan 2010 12:54
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More about Simon Wesseley here [not his website!!]
http://simonwessely.com/

Simon Wessely is a British psychiatrist.
- He is professor of epidemiological and liaison psychiatry at the Institute
of Psychiatry, King's College London

- Head of its department of psychological medicine

- Director of the King's Centre for Military Health Research.

- Honorary Consultant Psychiatrist at King's College Hospital and Maudsley
Hospital,

- Civilian Consultant Advisor in Psychiatry to the British Army.[Witapedia] .

What is not reported in Witapedia is Simon Wesselys association with the insurance industry..........

Anonymous
# Posted: 25 Jan 2010 13:17
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Ericgeneric
You can find the research studies using PubMed database
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

Published research [link form Rubin's webpage]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?term=Rubin%20GJ%20%5Bau%5D&cmd=search&db=pub med

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez
Search for an author:
Wessely S [au]
Rubin GJ [au]

Search for more than one author using 'AND'
Type in search in this format
Wessely S[au] AND Rubin GJ [au]

There are currently 19 hits for their combined research!

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 25 Jan 2010 14:02
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Oh, I know all about him!

He may have trouble discrediting the dangers of mobile technology, given that eventually it will effect most people in ways that not even his methods can cover up. Still, the Government must have been impressed with the way he stalled any progress into research and attitudes towards ME in over 20 years.

EG.

Anonymous
# Posted: 25 Jan 2010 15:41
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I found this Open Letter from the Buergerwelle website in response to Rubin and Co latest research paper.

http://www.buergerwelle.de/cms/content/view/401/70/
http://www.buergerwelle.de:8080/helma/twoday/bwnews/stories/320/

Idiopathic environmental intolerance attributed to electromagnetic fields
Open letter to G J Rubin and all associates

http://www.scribd.com/doc/25524904/Idiopathic-environmental-intolerance-attributed-to -electromagnetic-fields



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Abstract from Rubin paper
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/123215551/issue
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/122545486/abstract

Bioelectromagnetics, Volume 31 Issue 1 , Pages 1 - 87 (January 2010)
G. James Rubin *, Rosa Nieto-Hernandez, Simon Wessely
King's College London, Institute of Psychiatry, Department of Psychological Medicine, London, UK

Abstract
Idiopathic Environmental Intolerance attributed to electromagnetic fields (IEI-EMF; formerly electromagetic hypersensitivity) is a medically unexplained illness in which subjective symptoms are reported following exposure to electrical devices. In an earlier systematic review, we reported data from 31 blind provocation studies which had exposed IEI-EMF volunteers to active or sham electromagnetic fields and assessed whether volunteers could detect these fields or whether they reported worse symptoms when exposed to them. In this article, we report an update to that review. An extensive literature search identified 15 new experiments. Including studies reported in our earlier review, 46 blind or double-blind provocation studies in all, involving 1175 IEI-EMF volunteers, have tested whether exposure to electromagnetic fields is responsible for triggering symptoms in IEI-EMF. No robust evidence could be found to support this theory. However, the studies included in the review did support the role of the nocebo effect in triggering acute symptoms in IEI-EMF sufferers. Despite the conviction of IEI-EMF sufferers that their symptoms are triggered by exposure to electromagnetic fields, repeated experiments have been unable to replicate this phenomenon under controlled conditions. A narrow focus by clinicians or policy makers on bioelectromagnetic mechanisms is therefore, unlikely to help IEI-EMF patients in the long-term. Bioelectromagnetics 31:1-11, 2010. © 2009 Wiley-Liss, Inc.

Anonymous
# Posted: 25 Jan 2010 18:25
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Contrast the views in the research paper with those of the German, Austrian and Swiss doctors who recognise the health problems and have protested in numerous appeals to their governments because of the health problems that excessive exposures are causing to patients.
e.g. Freiburger Appeal, Bamberger Appell, and many others.

Why is it that the findings of the Bioinitiative Report has not been widely reported in the press and the medical journals??

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 25 Jan 2010 19:35
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Because the UK government, yet again as they did with ME and similar conditions, are committed to denying/discrediting all sufferers because of the consquences in financial terms (think how much money they'd lose from the telecom firms' investments and associated perks) and also the very real threat of widespread litigation in the form of compensation and class actions against the likes of O2, Vodafone and/or councils themselves.

EG.

gk1
# Posted: 5 Feb 2010 13:40
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http://www.gq.com/cars-gear/gear-and-gadgets/201002/warning-cell-phone-radiation

Great article

Giles

GK1
# Posted: 7 Feb 2010 23:28
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http://www.ukcosmos.org/index.html

GKI
# Posted: 10 Feb 2010 13:27
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Soldiers being dosed up with injections, then going into the field with high powered radios and radar equipment. ummm! Let us think about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_War_syndrome

http://www.ei-resource.org/illness-information/environmental-illnesses/gulf-war-syndr ome/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UpLuXFXJCc&feature=related

ES
# Posted: 11 Mar 2010 15:09
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ericgeneric - look here

A formal complaint has been lodged by Professor Malcolm Hooper with the Rt. Hon The Lord Drayson, Minister of State with responsibility for the Medical Research Council (Science and Innovation) about the "PACE" Clinical Trial of behavioural modification interventions for people with Myalgic Encephalomyelitis (ME) / Chronic Fatigue Syndrome (CFS).

http://www.meactionuk.org.uk/magical-medicine.htm
Magical Medicine:How to make a disease disappear
PRESS RELEASE: MEDICAL RESEARCH COUNCIL
12th February 2010

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http://www.bmj.com/channels/comment.dtl
Science, chronic fatigue syndrome, and me

http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/extract/340/mar04_1/c1266
http://www.bmj.com/cgi/eletters/340/mar04_1/c1266#232337
See letter by Justin Reilly, lawyer
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ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 11 Mar 2010 22:00
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Hi ES, seems that it's finally boiling over then...I'd read recently about Prof. Hooper's outrage at various issues regarding ME treatment/attitudes both in the media (Guardian especially), and also the MRC.

The whole row over ME/CFS has been going on my whole adult life, and never ends! It's amazing that the medical profession and the government have continued to get away with the things they've done for the best part of 30 years.

I often think they are hoping they can do the same with EHS and the Wi-Fi timebomb....years and years of stalling tactics, smoke & mirrors and misinformation. If so, they are making a massive judgemental error, because this new technology is going to impact on a whole lot more people in a much quicker - and deadlier - way.

EG.

Anonymous
# Posted: 1 May 2010 00:05
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Hi Ericgeneric,

I suggest that you look at the website of Dr Sarah Myhill - a private, caring private GP in Wales who has been treating ME/CFS - NOT using cognitive behavioural therapy or graded exercises - but using supplements /diet.


Look at
http://www.drmyhill.co.uk
and also the links there ...............to the GMC Hearing.

http://www.drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Electrical_sensitivity

This doctor has been doing excellent work with ME/CFS patients and has been disgracefully treated by the GMC Hearing.

She has been banned by the GMC from prescribing for 18 months because she had prescribed vitamin B12 injections.

They also objected to some items on the website.

Ericgeneric - The website files makes interesting reading.

Regards,
ES

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 17 May 2010 01:54
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Hi ES, I've heard about this outrageous case. She's been targeted, no question. Hooper's report should have been a bomb to blow this conspiracy apart; instead the GMC retaliate by going after Dr Myhill, presumably to scare anyone off.

Disgraceful.

I would like to know what the new Health Secretary plans to do about this obscene business. Given that a previous Tory government were complicit in getting the odious Wessley and his chums on board in the first place, back in the late 80s, I'm not holding out much hope.


EG.

Anonymous
# Posted: 18 May 2010 11:22
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Hi EG

Look at
http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/may/13/me-chronic-fatigue-syndrome

ES

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 18 May 2010 14:17
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No mention of the damning Hooper report, I notice!

At least that article is sympathetic.

EG.

Anonymous
# Posted: 29 Dec 2012 16:02
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EG
Professor Simon Wessely has been knighted in the New Year's Honour List.
Hmmm!
ES

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 29 Dec 2012 21:04
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Well, after all he's done for the Government - 30 years of surpressing the truth about M.E. *and* Microwave Sickness - plus reducing the benefit costs by labelling ill people as perfectly fine - I'm not that surprised. Sigh.

There is of course a much better use for that sword....

EG.

ES
# Posted: 30 Aug 2013 13:02
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EG

Look up RCGP and Dr Clare Gerada, Chair of the RCGPs.

Look up this link
http://forums.phoenixrising.me/index.php?threads/training-videos-for-english-gps-on-h ow-to-deal-with-cfs-patients.3079/page-2
Extract:
!Reconstruction of a typical GP consultation
Who is in the video?
Dr Clare Gerada (Simon Wessely's wife) and Alicia Deale (playing the patient):

So, not only Simon Wessely is controlling views, but his psychiatrist trained wife Clare, as the Chair of the RCGP, influences/controls the policy of the Royal College of General Physicians!

Is it any wonder we have problems with CFS and EHS being recognized with such bias?

ES

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 30 Aug 2013 16:05
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In business that would be classed as a major conflict of interest, and not allowed if it were challenged....

EG.

Henrik
Admin
# Posted: 30 Aug 2013 16:32
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ericgeneric,

But this is business as usual ...a slightly different horse.

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 30 Aug 2013 20:59 - Edited by: ericgeneric
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Oh, for sure!

It's judge and jury with these people.

EG.

ES
# Posted: 22 Oct 2013 12:32
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EG
I see that James Rubin is advertising PhD studentships.
http://www.kcl.ac.uk/iop/depts/pm/study/phds/index.aspx

Extract:

Developing an evidence-based patient information source to prevent 'electrosensitivity'
'Electrosensitivity' is a controversial condition in which people report symptoms following exposure to the electromagnetic fields produced by mobile phones, computers and electrical devices. Yet repeated double-blind experiments have produced no convincing evidence that electromagnetic fields can trigger these symptoms. Instead, psychological mechanisms including anxiety, expectations and stress may underlie the condition. In severe cases, electrosensitivity leads to a poor quality of life. In this project, we will develop an educational intervention which can be provided to people in the early stages of the condition.
Supervisor: Dr James Rubin

Can we prevent the 'nocebo' effect?
Symptoms which are misattributed to a hazardous exposure or medicine given out during an emergency often complicate emergency response efforts and affect the quality of life of those affected. Of particular concern to public health officials are the symptoms that are reported when mass prophylaxis is given to patients. In this project we will test a) whether small changes to the information given out to patients can reduce their likelihood of experiencing symptoms when given a medicine and b) whether these changes affect their ability to give proper informed consent for the treatment.
Supervisor: Dr James Rubin

ES

ericgeneric
Member
# Posted: 22 Oct 2013 14:10
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AKA brainwashing.

Pity he isn't aware of the all the mounting evidence citing the serious harm that pulsed microwave technology is doing. I guess a government-funded shill - sorry, PhD supervisor - isn't clever enough to understand.

EG.

Anonymous
# Posted: 10 Jun 2014 12:36
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EG
More brain washing of the press from Rubin and chums?
The latest garbage from James Rubin and Eldridge published on PlosOne.

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published online PlosOne

http://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0065713

Content Analysis of British Newspaper Reports
Buffy Eldridge-Thomas,

G James Rubin mail


Abstract
Idiopathic environmental intolerance attributed to electromagnetic fields (IEI-EMF) is a controversial condition in which people describe symptoms following exposure to electromagnetic fields from everyday electrical devices. However, double-blind experiments have found no convincing evidence that electromagnetic fields cause these symptoms. In this study, we assessed whether recent newspaper reporting in the UK reflected this scientific evidence. We searched a database of newspaper articles to identify all those that contained IEI-EMF related keywords and selected a random sample of 60 for content analysis. For our primary outcomes, we assessed how many articles mainly or wholly presented an electromagnetic cause for IEI-EMF and how many discussed unproven treatments for the condition such as strategies intended to reduce exposure to electromagnetic fields or the use of complementary and alternative therapies. We also assessed whether the type of information source used by a newspaper article (e.g. scientist, person with IEI-EMF, politician) or the type of newspaper (broadsheet, tabloid, local or regional) was associated with either outcome. Of the 60 articles, 43 (71.7%) presented a mainly electromagnetic cause, compared to 13 (21.7%) which presented mainly non-electromagnetic causes and 4 (6.7%) which did not discuss a cause. 29 (48.3%) did not mention any potential treatment, while 24 (40.0%) mentioned eletromagnetic field related strategies and 12 (20.0%) mentioned complementary or alternative therapies. Articles which quoted someone with IEI-EMF were significantly more likely to report an electromagnetic cause and to present unproven treatments. Those which used a scientist as a source were more likely to present a non-electromagnetic cause for the condition. The widespread poor reporting we identified is disappointing and has the potential for to encourage more people to misattribute their symptoms to electromagnetic fields. Scientists should remain engaged with the media to counteract this effect.


More brain washing of doctors, medical students, nurses

May these psychiatristsone day become electrohypersensitive , and learn from experience , what it is like for themselves.themselves..... to feel unwell from constant microwave frequency exposure.




ES

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