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MelanieLes
# Posted: 31 Aug 2018 07:47
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and I'm with iinet if that's at all relevant

Henrik
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2018 17:25
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MelanieLes,

You can send photos to: webmaster {-at-} mast-victims.org
( substitute {-at-} with @ )

Butterfly
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# Posted: 31 Aug 2018 19:52
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HI William I am new to all this, as researching myself due to a mobile mast a quarter of a mile away from my new home. But I came across grounding something you could read up on where you need to ground your self when possible.
Mobile masts seem to be everywhere now so no hope of getting away entirely.

I bought a Q-Link that helps me

My mum lives nearer to a mast something the same distance as you and I bought her an E-link tower. It looks like sand put in a container so thought it was a stupid gimmick. But she has reported some good things after a day. Will see how it goes though. Q link works in that it makes me more focused and stronger somehow. it is a pendant worn around neck. again there are for and against some say it is a gimmick too. Works for me.

Try the grounding if you have not already. Just google it.

I really hope you get the results you want. Best wishes

Anonymous
# Posted: 5 Sep 2018 02:28
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Hi guys,
is there a contact number I can talk to you on about all this?
thanks

pitt
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# Posted: 10 Oct 2018 05:50
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Textile Tensile Testing Machine is designed to test a wide range of materials in tension, bursting, tear, elongation, constant load, elastic, thread slip, peeling and other mechanical properties. Tensile Strength Tester complies with ISO 13934.1/2, ISO 13935.1/2, ISO 9073.3/4, etc. It might provide you with some help, welcome to click on https://www.testextextile.com/product/textile-tensile-testing-machine-tf001/

Whiskeyinajar
# Posted: 25 Oct 2018 14:51
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Is it possible to wallpaper over this paint ? Will it still work

Henrik
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# Posted: 29 Oct 2018 22:10
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Whiskeyinajar,

"Is it possible to wallpaper over this paint ? Will it still work"

Can't imagine why it shouldn't.

Try contacting the manufacturer: info@yshield.com

bigguy
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# Posted: 2 Jan 2019 15:17
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Hello.

I have a need for the HSF paint due to certain HF emissions in my home and I would be very grateful if you could answer me a couple of questions.
I am thinking of buying the HSF PRO 54 paint without graphite. I live in an apartment on the first floor of the three floor building.

1. If we want to prevent only High frequency emissions entering my home do I have to ground the paint? As to my understanding the paint should only be grounded if I want to block LF emissions from the devices and wall installations or am I wrong? Does grounding work for HF emissions?

2. I have read that many people have suffered a certain discomfort or buzzing or other symptoms when they were spending more time in the rooms covered with paint. Was that because of the poor grounding or something else? Could it be an issue with the ordinary paint that goes on your PRO or HSF paint? Are some people more sensible than others?

3. Is the PRO 54 dangerous when it dries because i will have a future need for drilling the wall? What about your HSF54 paint with graphite? I know that graphite is not to be taken very lightly.

4. Whan happens if we make an HF emission from the room (for.ex. phone call). How does that emission goes away without damaging us? Grounding?

5. I have only one or two problematic walls in my room so do I need to make an absolute Faraday cage or is it enough to perform shielding only on problematic walls?

6. If grounding is mandatory I am aware that some ''dirty frequencies'' could enter the room through the grounding. How true is that statement?

7. My home emissions don't exceed 200 W/m2 in some places so would you think that PRO 54 paing painted in two layers would be enough for protection? I would like the emission to be reduced below 10 W/m2

Many thanks for your effort and time.

Kind regards,

Igor

Sam
# Posted: 2 Jan 2019 21:00
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An alternative is to apply reflective wallpaper on the problematic walls surfaces, and if still necessary to then apply absorbing wallpaper.

You should avoid using mobile phones or other EMF -emitting apparatus in a shielded area, as the output will increase considerably. Use a wired landline phone instead, or go outside.

It is best if you can to assess what frequencies are affecting your residence to determine which shielding products are most relevant and will give the best result.

Anonymous
# Posted: 20 Feb 2019 17:14
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Hello. I do not believe I am ES, but I do want to mitigate the EMFs coming into my home. I have been advised by a trained person in the shielding arena to use Y Shield HSF 54 paint in my bedroom with the grounding tape on 4 walls and across 1 side of the ceiling, as well as grounding fabric on the windows. I am wanting to move forward with this, but have learned about potassium silicate paints, which apprarently do no have VOCs and would like to use them for primer and top coat on my plaster walls IF they are compatible with the YShield. I sent a contact form email from their website to Y Shield and have not received a response. Does anyone have a direct email address for someone who can answer my question so I can move forward with this? Good luck to all of you who are challenged by the ES. I wish you all wellbeing. Simone

Henrik
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# Posted: 21 Feb 2019 11:40
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Hi Simone,

YShield staff answer this email address: info@yshield.com

B24Fox
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# Posted: 17 Apr 2019 14:05 - Edited by: B24Fox
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Please make this a STICKIE and/or spread this information wherever possible:

Before applying any sort of shield on your walls (be it shielding paint, foil, mesh, metal insect screen, etc), you MUST be sure that the electrical wiring inside (or outside) your walls has UNINTERRUPTED metal shielding, and that shielding is PROPERLY GROUNDED right up to the power socket (including the power socket if possible), AND NOT touching the microwave shield you apply on the walls.

Do not.. I repeat: DO NOT use shielding paint, foil, or any other microwave shielding solution, in the close proximity of live electrical conductors, power sockets, or any sort of household appliance that is not PERFECTLY SHIELDED. The paint/shield WILL pick up the AC electric field, and blast it all over the room like a huge emitter. Depending on the AC electrical field present, more caution should be taken.

You can measure the AC fields with a specialized meter, or you can use a multimeter set to 60VAC, and (while being perfectly still) measure between your body and a good clean ground. Do this all around the room. No more than 100mV should be present on your body (which in this case acts as the antenna). Ideally you want to have =<50mV

DO NOT bring electrical appliances (i.e. Laptops, TVs) inside Faraday cages, unless they are battery powered (so no wires come close to the cage), and the cage is big enough so that the electrical appliance is at least 1 meter (~2 feet) away from the cage walls.

This is the reason why so many people start feeling worse after shielding their room/house.

P.S. If you really want to ground your microwave shielding paint/foil/mesh (which might not really be necessary), BE SURE to use a different ground than the one you used for grounding the shield on AC wiring.

P.P.S Look into MC Wires (Metal Clad Wires)

Anonymous
# Posted: 25 Mar 2020 11:49
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DO NOT paint the inside of the wall socket! Instead, leave a ~2cm border around the socket. I put masking tape around wall sockets before painting.

Anonymous
# Posted: 25 Mar 2020 11:59
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@Henrik

"DO NOT paint the inside of the wall socket! Instead, leave a ~2cm border around the socket. I put masking tape around wall sockets before painting."

Hi Henrik... could you leave a 2cm space as mentioned and then use a socket surround - backed with a HF non-conductive fabric so you leave no gaps?

I would use something like this:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01LWK5G4G/?coliid=IC5QA7MEPHDKO&colid=1F8B4A9B57Y3F&psc= 1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

...and cover the reverse with a HF non-conductive fabric like:

Fabric ULTIMA™/HF Shielding: https://www.electrosmogshielding.co.uk/product.asp?P_ID=739&CAT_ID=104

Obviously the fabric would also be prevented from touching the HSF54 paint with a couple of coats of emulsion paint as well as the materials in between the wall and socket both being non-conductive.

Then there's the led ceiling spot lights... what would one do here?

Best regards,
Craig

Tommy
# Posted: 16 Feb 2022 22:35
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Hello, i know this thread is old but i've many posts about a whistling/tinnitus after shielding a room, I too have just experienced this and it will not go away, i have manually grounded to the earthing pin inside the plug, we have 8 apartments inside the building, the whistling didnt start untill i put up the blackout curtains from "mission darkness" which sealed off the windowed wall, i have not shielded the floor but all 4 walls and ceiling is painted with hsf54 as we are on the ground floor i dont feel particular need to shield it as i'm hoping that is a place for the RFs to escape if they get in.

Can anyone please advise on what i stand to lose if i remove the grounding in an effort to combat this annoying whistling, And also how i could ground it to the grass outside through my window without having to drill a hole into the window frame?? my girlfreind says she cannot hear it but she has had an old migrane problem suddenly recurr.

Thanks all in advance this thread is really good infomation i was so lost untill i found this forum, we should keep it going and an admin could possibly create a summary and stick it to the first post in the thread.

horsevad
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# Posted: 16 Feb 2022 23:59
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Can anyone please advise on what i stand to lose if i remove the grounding in an effort to combat this annoying whistling

Microwave shielding is NOT affected by grounding.

(For lower frequencies, in the VLF or ELF range, shielding can be beneficial for shielding effectiveness, depending on the exact construction fo the Faraday cage)

To advise further we need to investigate whether the observed "whistling" is related to the Frey effect, or it actually is a sound produced by the shielding enclosure.

Do you have the means to make a sound recording in the room? And post that here, preferably without any digital compression?. Afterwards I can do some FFT calculations on the recorded signals and thereby determine the spectral composition of the sounds recorded in the room.

If the Faraday cage, by coincidence, is grounded to a magnetotelluric anomaly conditions in the cage will detoriate to the point of beeing unsustainable for biological life. If the enclosure crosses a magnetotelluric anomaly similar situations may arise.

You can find further information about magnetotelluric anomalies here:
http://horsevad.net/publications.html

//Kim Horsevad

Tommy
# Posted: 18 Feb 2022 07:40
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Hello Horsevad and thanks for your reply and link to the publication. After further deliberation and investigation i've come to the conclusion the safest thing to do is remove the shielded paint as its health effects are a clear danger.

Do you know what the best way to remove this paint is? I have a full face respirator coming in the mail, i was just curious about how to deal with the ceiling though as its the prickled finish plaster so its bobbly and would like to avoid wrecking the plaster if i can. Someone said acetone wash perhaps?

Sound recording the painted room sounds the same as recordings in other rooms which are not painted, and going outside i have sustained tinnitus which is reduced in intensity when i stand barefoot on the ground.

This shielding is a serious health hazard and something i wish i had never embarked on, and 5g isnt even a thing where i live yet, I think a bed canopy is a much safer idea and can be taken down when not in use and wont irradiate the entire building with reflections

It also raises the question of what is going on because i feel like i have inadvertantly walked into an experiment and am now a specimin, the only reason things are hush hush around the severe health dangers of shielding RFs and RFs in general is because of how the intelligence communities are wrapped up in RF weapons in the first place and silence any real legal dissent of 5g rollout.

What is the best way to remove this paint, particularly for a bobbled ceiling? im going to have to dismantle this because its having severe health effects in rooms adjacent to the shielded room aswell making our entire habitat uninhabitable

And to think what its going to be like once elon musk's starlink is saturating the entire planet in microwaves, if people remain complacent about this life on the earth is dead - Humans are not compatible with Robot control grids and i think Elon already knows this.

Thanks for your help.

horsevad
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2022 12:26
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As far as I am aware, the paint from Yshield can only be removed mechanically.

RF shielding is - generally - a good thing.

However, serious problems may arise if:

1: Grounding allows exogenic electric noise access to the shielded enclosure
If that happens, the whole shielded enclosure suddenly functions as an antenna.

Most building codes and electrical installation codes prescribes equipotential bonding, where any electrically conductive surface is connected to installation ground (PE). This requierement may, however, make a shielded enclosure inhabitable.

Any ground connected to a shielded enclosure MUST be devoid of foreign man-made frequencies

2: Electrically conductive parts of the enclosure straddles (or are connected to) a magnetotelluric anormaly.
The exact mechanism is not fully understood yet, but it causes serious problems for the inhabitant.

3: Electrically conductive parts of the enclosure are positioned close to electrical wiring. Electrical noise and foreign frequencies may couple to the shielding enclosure an convert the enclosure to an antenna.



For optimal effect, one should abstein from installation and use of all kinds of electrical aparatus inside the shielding enclosure.



//Kim Horsevad

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