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plopplop
# Posted: 20 Dec 2017 14:34
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This is a brilliantly interesting book that raises the question in my mind as to whether economic warfare could explain why Doctors will not recognise the obvious truth that NI radiation is very dangerous. What a brilliant way to bankrupt a nation and there are no more exposed countries than the UK ( BT boast of the most powerful wifi in the world while France has just banned it from Schools LEGALLY) and Japan, Both are running massive deficits and being bought out cheap by Big Money. Good bye democracy, welfare state and our health!

Is MK Ultra here now?

plopplop
# Posted: 20 Dec 2017 17:44
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This does fit the timing of the 2008 CRASH and the mass introduction of MV, wifi blutooth etc. The refinancing of the EU and the buying of EU assets for cents on the Dollar. The UK budget deficit is now higher as a percentage of GDP than at the end of WW2. We are ripe for plucking or is it the F word. Read this book and draw a comparison if you will.
We still have not established a new sustainable economic equilibrium ten years later. The crash will be into the pockets of the big banks and their deciding what democracy they want us to have, what laws, what health. I think in large part this has already happened. The NHS is in name only in England now. Privateisation of all public services and Freidmonite hell for the ordinary people. The tool for this is MK Ultra MW poisoning. The Russians could not and would not have done this. Why are we letting this happen?

plopplop
# Posted: 21 Dec 2017 14:35
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Denying the research that shows NI radiations has adverse effects on health is not head in the sand but rather a conscious decision by our leaders to swell the ranks of the ill and deliberately bankrupt the Welfare State. This is a subtle way to take over through debt. It is definitely working. It is definitely avoidable. NI radiation increases explain the stagnation in our economy and are exactly what you would predict based on experimental research. The question is why is it tolerated? This crisis now extended and unresolved is a way to in-debt and but up UK cheap. Not much is left now so why is it still going on? Just to future tax revenues will go strait to the banks and not to Welfare needs. They've got it made. Were getting electrocuted into submission. This fits the facts!

plopplop
# Posted: 21 Dec 2017 14:37
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Sorry BUY UP and NOT BUT UP the UK. Sorry!

plopplop
# Posted: 28 Dec 2017 15:36
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TRY

http://www.stopthecrime.net/docs/SILENT%20WEAPONS%20for%20QUIET%20WARS.pdf


From the: So who is our microwave specialist: Barry Thrower? Link. Thanking you

Jonnyloosegain
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# Posted: 28 Dec 2017 19:41
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Scary stuff I quote this:

"The public might instinctively feel that something is wrong but because of the technical nature of the silent weapon, they cannot express their feeling in a rational way, or handle the problem with intelligence. Therefore, they do not know how to cry for help, and do not know how to associate with others to defend themselves against it. When a silent weapon is applied gradually, the public adjusts/adapts to its presence and learns to tolerate its encroachment on their lives until the pressure (psychological via economic) becomes too great and they crack up."

Jonnyloosegain
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# Posted: 28 Dec 2017 20:27 - Edited by: Jonnyloosegain
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Very good book plopplop, this link breaks it down:

https://henrithibodeau.wordpress.com/2015/05/26/silent-weapons-for-quiet-wars-hoax-wa rning-or-elite-blueprint-for-global-domination/

Though I'd recommend you read the pdf itself. (others reading this)

It's true and sad that people are always busy, busy, busy and have little time to look through, validate, take necessary steps of action and maintain health regarding exposure to microwaves.
Is this by design? It certainly feels that way or at-least taken advantage of to a very heavy extent by the wireless industry and some Government officials.
They let down people like my father who do their job and expect health officials to be doing their job. But I don't feel this is happening and that is clear for those like me who know that exposure guidelines are lousy and absurd concerning health protection.

plopplop
# Posted: 30 Dec 2017 23:03
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The UK PG medical definition of "MICRO WAVE SICKNESS" is "IDIOPATHIC ENVIRONMENTAL INTOLERANCE".

"An idiopathy is any disease with unknown cause or mechanism of apparently spontaneous origin."

THIS IS BLOODY RIDICULOUS. These are professionals, talking self contradictory rubbish and getting paid to lie to us. God help us! The Justice system wom't. Thats one $ one vote too.

The history of this evolution is that after WWII the US lent us and Europe money to rebuild, but only if we accepted that radio waves could never be found to be a pollutant. This made profits easy as no liability could be claimed for their adverse effects on health. We needed to do this to better Communism. Those nasty Commies did not expose their populations to "white goods" cos they thought them to dangerous. Now women are 4 times as likely to suffer from diseases of "modern civilisation" than men cos kitchens are so wired up and women cook at the most dangerous time to be near wires. Wires are antennas linked to every one else's dirty electricity producing devices. The immune system goes nuts and attacks. We don't look the same in induced fields and the immune system is convinced we are becoming the enemy. IE lies DO kill very slowly and agonisigly. Did those NAZIS in America win after all?
The problem is how to extract our lives from these pollutions to get better. No NHS GP will be able to advise you to get away from electro pollutions without risking his job. Go private cos they can. The GMC pay for their own private health. They would not use their own NHS GPs. Cos they know they are corrupted rubbish.

REF ME
Medicine: Systemic exertion intolerance disease (SEID), a medical condition also known as myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS)

Other uses: Seid , an Old Norse term for a type of sorcery or witchcraft.

I had ME for decades but learned about ES from a French electrician and got better the next day simply by switching off my electricity supply. Then I just had to get away from my neighbor's.

Better to trust a witch than a "doctor" in this day and age. Who is in the pay of the Devil?

Jonnyloosegain
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# Posted: 31 Dec 2017 10:23 - Edited by: Jonnyloosegain
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The doctors are scared for their jobs and scared of ridicule. The wireless industry want this and love this. I feel this all the time and others do too but they don't know where to accredit this feeling to like me, you and others on this forum.
Me and others on this forum or others who know the health concerns need to gently educate people, deliver the education in whatever way works, casually, jokingly etc. The less ignorant they become on the subject the more awareness we raise that goes against the wireless industry's success and continuity. This isn't just wishy washy talk, we effectively reduce their consumption of wireless goods or slow them down from considering it. To a small degree? Possibly but any degree is enough to be felt by the wireless industry and that is why our efforts to educate others is very needed. The people we educate will be reminded of our talks and information whenever they use a mobile or see a cell tower, even if the flashback to our education is tiny, that is enough to strike fear in the wireless industry, a population that wakes up in any size of awareness is a threat to them.
So I advise others to educate others, it doesn't have to be done in a traditional sense.
My presentation of wireless effects in front of normal non-the-wiser people in a classroom had them interested for 24 minutes because they wanted to listen in case they would learn something that could save or help them.

Also concerning doctors, they should look into microorganisms and microwave radiation, this well constructed, easy to read PDF talks about it. It shows negative and positive effects, if you are wondering what the positive effects is all about, it is because low power, low frequency microwave radiation helps growth in some bacteria, but for other strains of bacteria there is high death counts and very limited functionality.
5G technology is high power and high frequency, so don't assume we could be ok. That is if the wireless industry gets their way that is!

Here: http://scindeks-clanci.ceon.rs/data/pdf/2334-9492/2014/2334-94921402102J.pdf

For me, the above study warrants a zero risk approach to public roll out of cell towers.

Some extracts of PDF:

"Understanding the mechanism of non-thermal action of microwaves on microorganisms is very important for the possible future use of microwave technology or for avoidance of its deleterious effects on humans, who live in symbiosis with microbes. Not much is known
www.hophonline.org 105
Janković SM et al: The Effects of Microwave Radiation on Microbial Culture
about the mechanisms because previous studies have been limited in number and scope [23]. In a study in which Escherichia coli cultures were exposed to microwaves (18 GHz, absorbed power 1500 kW/m2, electric field 300 V/m) at temperatures below 40°C (to avoid the thermal effects of microwaves), transient morphological changes (dehydrated appearance) and openings of pores in the cell membrane (approximately 20 nm in diameter, enabling passage of dextran molecules) were observed [24]. It seems that this effect is electro kinetic in nature (caused by increased movements of anions and cations), causing localized structural disarrangements of the cell membrane,"

"Non-thermal effects on growth
2An interesting finding was made in the study of Grundler et al. [22]: at frequencies of 41, 64041, and 835 MHz, microwaves showed a resonant-like effect on the growth of some yeasts, including Saccharomyces cerevisiae, which was not dependent on the amount of absorbed energy from the microwaves. The growth was interchangeably enhanced or decreased at steps of 10 MHz within the frequency range studied. The mechanism of this effect could not be explained by the authors.
"

But pplopop like you say, they don't care, they want us to remain clueless and they are willing to suppress the facts. To me, they are somewhat psychopathic enough to do it for more than just money. I mean how can you be settled with making money from radiating the unsuspecting population with pulsed microwaves 24/7 and then desire to roll out even more cell towers and introduce a higher frequency, higher power technology like 5G ?! Hmm maybe a psychopath in need of massive cash? I couldn't imagine a single person I know who could do that. Unless! They hide from the facts, delude themselves, get others on their side and act all innocent all the time, oh wait, that's the wireless industry all over!

plopplop
# Posted: 31 Dec 2017 16:27
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Read the Shock Doctrine,,,, re my post to understand the mentality at the top. The UK is primed to be taken over. The assumption that the SOCIOPATHS running things give a shite does not fit the evidence. Please read my other posts. Nothing reinforces the status quo better than electrical pollutions. Just look at the timing of introduction and the economic slow down. Research would have predict all that did happen so was it a tool? looks looks it to me. Silent weapons for silent wars. That was the research development plan of the Neo Cons Friedmonites. Very seriously.
WE know that this shite is bad for health. The question is why are we being subjected to it? It has not boosted out economy. We are not more productive. In fact we are less well off that before it was introduced financially. We are in permanent financial crisis. Just what it takes to take us over. Our health is going from bad to worse. There are no accesible health stats cos they are desperately trying to cover it all up. "Democide" is the tool used. IE deaths from causes that cover the truth. I call the ones doing this NAZIS and history will show what I am saying is true. If they do not write the history. I hope not.

Jonnyloosegain
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# Posted: 31 Dec 2017 23:30 - Edited by: Jonnyloosegain
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Plopplop I will read through the document and your posts. Do you have any other documents on this subject?

I agree with you, it feels like there is more to it than just health concerns.

What is there reason to subject us to electrical pollution if not for money?

For control? If for control, then, they want to feel more powerful?

Are they human? Or is it to shock us, make us more docile so they can pass more laws and gain control?

I am very open minded and I myself have looked into the 'powers that be' extensively and what they could be and watching how inhumane they can be.
They don't listen to us at all.

I shall look through your posts.

plopplop
# Posted: 2 Jan 2018 16:33
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The corporations are motivated by the bottom line only. They are out to hollow out and destroy government regulations as anti capitalist because they are anti democratic. They are NAZI by default. They must be stopped. I don't want one $ one vote. Which is where we are now or very nearly. It makes the ill invalid. I want the law which states the "polluter pays the cost" and my human rights not to have my life be destroyed with pollutions. Where is the justice system? Where are my human rights? Seriously I have spent years and a lot of brains trying to access them. I cant! This is a NAZI take over. We just have not realised it yet! God help us cos no one in the establishment will. We have been sold out.

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