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jonnyc55
# Posted: 2 Feb 2019 17:18
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This is a good read and I am shocked that there was even a difference. I used to think that EMF's from natural sources were just the same as man made sources but weaker. Nope, apparently there is another difference.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep14914

jonnyc55
# Posted: 2 Feb 2019 17:19
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Abstract from the link above:

"In the present study we analyze the role of polarization in the biological activity of Electromagnetic Fields (EMFs)/Electromagnetic Radiation (EMR). All types of man-made EMFs/EMR - in contrast to natural EMFs/EMR - are polarized. Polarized EMFs/EMR can have increased biological activity, due to: 1) Ability to produce constructive interference effects and amplify their intensities at many locations. 2) Ability to force all charged/polar molecules and especially free ions within and around all living cells to oscillate on parallel planes and in phase with the applied polarized field. Such ionic forced-oscillations exert additive electrostatic forces on the sensors of cell membrane electro-sensitive ion channels, resulting in their irregular gating and consequent disruption of the cell's electrochemical balance. These features render man-made EMFs/EMR more bioactive than natural non-ionizing EMFs/EMR. This explains the increasing number of biological effects discovered during the past few decades to be induced by man-made EMFs, in contrast to natural EMFs in the terrestrial environment which have always been present throughout evolution, although human exposure to the latter ones is normally of significantly higher intensities/energy and longer durations. Thus, polarization seems to be a trigger that significantly increases the probability for the initiation of biological/health effects."

Anonymous
# Posted: 2 Feb 2019 19:30
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Excellent Jonny, but anyone listening?

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 3 Feb 2019 00:22
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This explains the increasing number of biological effects discovered during the past few decades to be induced by man-made EMFs, in contrast to natural EMFs in the terrestrial environment which have always been present throughout evolution, although human exposure to the latter ones is normally of significantly higher intensities/energy and longer durations

Yet amazingly all these "experts" setting the limits haven't taken this into account. Nor the "experts" placed in the media to deny any problems with this tech.

History is not going to view these people very favourably.
EG.

jonnyc55
# Posted: 3 Feb 2019 15:01
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Yet amazingly all these "experts" setting the limits haven't taken this into account. Nor the "experts" placed in the media to deny any problems with this tech.History is not going to view these people very favourably.EG.

You're right. The media don't showcase experts who can show the problem with EMF, which could help millions of people make better choices for their health.


History will show these people, like ICNIRP and the FCC to be corrupt like the people who used to peddle the drug Thalidomide in the 60s in America that created deformities in new born babies.

"It became apparent in the 1960s that thalidomide treatment resulted in severe birth defects in thousands of children. "

During court proceedings the corporate types were defending their drug - Thalidomide, with excuses like: "nuclear fallout" to "botched home abortions". Thalidomide become banned worldwide.


It was later discovered that Thalidomide could starve blood flow to cells.


Thalidomide tragedy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41n3mDoVbvk


So yeah, basically man-made EMF will one day be the 'new Thalidomide'.

Corporate greed basically does world play and manipulation based on peoples desire to keep their dopamine fueling gadgets with excuses that things are 'aright' and that the EMF is within 'safe limits'.
They know it doesn't take much to keep people happy using their phones or living near a cell tower. That is also because the information on the biological effects are muted in the media.
Of course the dopamine zombies will accept this and resume. I don't blame them too much because the integration of these EMF gadgets is all over society and the addiction is a very real thing too.

At the very least the NHS should have better health notices on EMF, showcasing biological effects from non-ionising radiation, even at small doses.

I mean, even 1 mW (My bed is a constant 2-7 mW/m2 due to the nearby cell tower.) can show effects in biology (neuroblastoma cells). https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6712751

The study showcases biological effect at a narrow range in EMF but there is prove at the very least that 'small doses' of EMF have effect on us.

I was talking in a popular chat board, which is filled with young people (16-30), that talks about many other things, usually politics, and someone posted a question on whether he should be scared of 5G. There was the odd "don't worry it can't break chemical bonds" line but nonetheless there were people who shot these types down with science and there was people who showed concern.

So concern does exist beyond those who have read up on EMF biological effects.

Ann
# Posted: 9 Feb 2019 17:15
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'..... EMF will one day be the new thalidomide..' I think if already is we are hearing of so many cancers, suicides, depression - far more than ever before. The police said that the number of people sectioned have increased by 30% the last three years. Suicides have gone up and depression - anyone who is anyone would tell you that they had suffered in recent years.
I used to think how do these people manage then by not giving up their wireless techs? Then they say they are on tablets. Do you think pharmaceutical companies care? More money in their pockets.
But until people start to drop down dead probably nothing will happen. And even if they do they will explain it in other ways.

We already read about diseases that seem so strange (a child that wants to sleep all the time, a man losing weight) and they cannot be explained yet no one expects the electricity and magnetism we are generating a huge amounts.


I had to smile the other day when I heard that a chap talking about his health said he has a wireless monitor for his heart because it races sometimes - yep probably because of the EMFs he is immersed in all day.

I could go on.

Ann
# Posted: 9 Feb 2019 17:17
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'expects' read 'suspects' sorry!

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