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# Posted: 10 Dec 2007 02:42
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103 news today :
Phone Masts
Emissions from phone masts must be within international guidelines - that's the finding of a second review by our Health Department into any risks from mobile phones.
Last year the Health Department found that there would be no risk to our health from phone masts if exposure was within certain guidelines.
But when the new Health minister Senator Ben Shenton took up his post earlier this year he called for a further review.
That's now been completed and hasn't found anything different to the first investigation.
But the Health Department will further investigate any possible health risks in 2009 or 2010.
I'm knocked for six by this. I know for a fact that Senator Shenton received copies of documentation and information penned by a number of respected scientists and researchers showing the dangers of mast radiation, yet it seems, as with the original investigation, all of this went completely ignored.
Infact, some of the information taken as gospel by the panel during the original hearing was both and flawed and misleading, and this I know they were later clearly made aware of.
Something is not right here. If a possible health issue arose with any other product, be that paint or pasta, at the very least a cautionary approach would be implemented. Concern for the health of the public would be paramount. Yet with phone masts, with numerous respected and qualified scientists speaking out from all corners of the globe about the dangers, there is not the slightest thought of caution by those in power, and only the 'pro' side is taken seriously.
Serious questions need to be asked, but sadly the only people we can ask are those who control the answers.
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observer
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# Posted: 20 Dec 2007 12:23
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New applications
Airtel Application Reference S/2007/2977 Address Hotel de France, St Saviour's Road, St. Saviour Date Last Advertised 14/12/2007 - pending Applicant Mr C. Pearce, Le Masurier House, St Helier JE2 4YE Description Installation of 3 No. antennaes and 3 No. equipment cabinets.
C&W Application Reference S/2007/2500 Address La Chasse Transmitter, La Rue Militaire, St. Ouen Date Last Advertised 19/10/2007 Status Approved Decision Decision Date 30/11/2007 Applicant Cable & Wireless Jersey, 8 David Place, St Helier JE2 4TD Description Installation of 6 No. antennae, 6 No. dishes & 1 No. equipment cabinet.
Newtel (network links) Application Reference S/2007/2505 Address La Chasse Transmitter, La Rue Militaire, St. Ouen Date Last Advertised 19/10/2007 pending Agent Mr N Caunce, 1-3 Columberie, St Helier JE4 9SY Description Relocation of 8 No. antennae from existing tower to new tower.
The new mast has gone up at La Chasse - there are now 4. One should come down at some point.
A new mast is being installed at Westmount at the entrance to Jersey Water, some earthworks are in progress for foundations.
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bean-their-2-lo ok
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# Posted: 21 Dec 2007 16:24
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had a look at J.water but no sign of new mast foundation yet, just work on replacement underground reservoir pipes presently going on by Jayen.
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islander
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# Posted: 8 Feb 2008 12:49
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just been told about a new phone mast gone up 7-02-08 Mt.Ube la Hocque area. residents are not happy
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islander2
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# Posted: 14 Feb 2008 12:45
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Mt.Ube (Rue de la Hougette) : C&W withdrew an application and have a tel pole near Clos de Roncier. Airtel have approval for a tel pole here (probably the one going up) after their application nearer Green Island was turned down, and there's this pending application for JT there..
Application Reference RC/2008/0078 Address Field 197, La Rue de la Hougette, St. Clement Date Last Advertised 18/01/2008 Application Type Remove/Vary Condition Application Status Pending Decision Applicant Jersey Telecom, St hELIER JE4 8PB Description Vary condition 4 (time period) of permit No. S/2007/1633 dated 30 November 2007 from '15 January 2008' to '15 January 2009'.
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JT, Rozel : Work now going ahead replacing tel pole with 2 visible small panels, with new Sure-style tel pole with internal panels. First time JT have used one of these?
Application Reference S/2007/1709 Address Field 103, La Grande Route de Rozel, St. Martin Application Type Satellite Dishes/Comms Antenna Status Approved Decision Decision Date 30/11/2007 Applicant Mr T. Knights, PO Box 53, No. 1 The Forum, St Helier JE4 8PB Description Remove existing installation. Install 1 No. wooden clad replica telegraph pole and 4 No. antennae.
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weety
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2008 01:15
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Hi JMMCG
C&W have also started a mobile network on Isle of Man as of last June, up until then we only had the one local telecom company - Manx Telecom.
Obviously the masts on the Isle of Man have doubled in the past year due to C&W.
Unlike Jersey the Isle of Man has no 'anti-mast' groups! So the two telecom companies are totally unrestricted and unopposed.
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aghast
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2008 12:01
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I've seen the new mast at Mt. Ube and I can't believe planning approved it! What an eyesore - it's massive! REALLY tall, RIGHT on the top of the hill with no trees nearby, sticks out like a sore thumb for miles around Pontac and Le Hocq. Unbelievable.. just unbelievable. Absolute disgrace.
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Islander
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2008 13:50
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This Morning we have spotted Coils of Thick Heliax coax and Mast equipment being taken up scaffolding alongside Grande Marche Co-op supermarket from an english registered van in carpark opposite. more radiation on the way for residents in the flats opposite :-(
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doubledivvy
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# Posted: 15 Feb 2008 14:13
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They're planning to put a wind turbine up there, it could be that going up.. although there is approval for a BTS up there - which will be an interesting combination!
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SingleDivvy
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# Posted: 18 Feb 2008 11:39
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The new mast at Mt.Ube is JT relocating their mast in the same field, changing from 2 to 3 sectors in a fake telegraph pole of a very even profile as also seen currently replacing other masts at Rozel and the other cluster of 3 poles near Grosnez.
Airtel aren't using this site as they seem to be covering this south-east area well enough from 3 sites - the tennis courts, top of Grouville Hill and near Holme Grown.
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Islander
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# Posted: 22 Feb 2008 12:15
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Strong GSM signals now radiating top section of Stopford road, they started last night from Le Masuriers new Mast Array thats on roof where scaffold is erected by side of Grande Marche Co-op poor folks living next to it and accross in states flats are getting blasted from point blank range. :-(
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Divvy
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# Posted: 22 Feb 2008 18:05
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C&W Sure now available at Bonne Nuit harbour, small panel on pole near toilets block.
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Islander
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# Posted: 26 Feb 2008 12:02
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on sunday 24th more antenna arrays and heliax cables being installed above Le Mausriers roof further south and some kind of cladding being fitted to hide the first installation from view!!!
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Anonymous
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# Posted: 5 Mar 2008 21:27
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"The permission is on a temporary basis with installations subject to removal if negative health effects are proven."
Read the scrutiny hearing with Airtel. They admit danger to health. Ask why this is being ignored.
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Islander
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# Posted: 7 Mar 2008 16:53
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The Mast installation at le Mausriers must be complete now as all the scaffold has been taken down two days ago. GSM signal levels in surrounding roads as far as David place are much higher now!
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Hmmm
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# Posted: 10 Apr 2008 19:36
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re: Masts, our Chief Minister, and one Mr Repacholi : http://aholidayinthesun.blogspot.com/2008/04/responsibility-frank.html
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info
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# Posted: 12 Apr 2008 15:30
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Various new Airtel sites around the island this spring : La "Praririe" Farm, La Route de Beaumont, St. Peter (near roundabout) Field 197, La Rue de la Hougette, St. Clement (near JT's new one at Mt Ube) Field 375, La Rue de la Forge, St. Martin (top of St.Cath's hill) - just 3 I've spotted this week.
And Sure C&W boasted in the JEP yesterday about their new site at the end of St.Cath's breakwater - saying their aerials are the smallest ones there (as if that's of any consequence).
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FishCatcher
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# Posted: 12 Apr 2008 15:56
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unknowingly poor fisherman will now get will get nicely baked from accumalation of 3 sets of RF emmisions adding together at the end of the breakwater as they tend to hang about for bites, they will get more than they went for. looking at the sytem it would be very easy to kill the problem off permanantly with nails in the cables/sawing them apart or non destructivley method just cover the antennas up in bacofoil to stop the emmisions whilst fishing, foil could then be be removed without damage when finished with out being a destructive vandel :-)
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info
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# Posted: 13 Apr 2008 13:15
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Nails through the cables would probably be pointless in the long term - they'd just have to face the expense of armoured trunking and you'd be right back where you started after simply annoying them and costing them a little fortune. And it would look really ugly too.. so might as well leave it alone.
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info
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# Posted: 29 Apr 2008 18:41
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JEP today :
"Wake up! Our health is more important"
WELL now, aren't Sure mobile phone users the lucky ones – a new aerial at St Catherine means a better signal. This has apparently been approved by Health and Planning officials and cannot easily be seen from the café. So it's OK to zap everyone with cancer-causing radiation emissions as long as you can't see them, is it? Will the people who use the café be aware that they are absorbing large doses of radiation with their cuppa? Will there be notices posted to this effect? Wake up. Jersey. What is more important, the health of your children (these are the most vulnerable) or a better phone signal?
From Madeline Bates. 2 Clarendon Road, St Helier.
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Well, the end of the breakwater is half a mile away.. perhaps the mast by the phone box ought to be more of a concern because that's a lot closer to the cafe!
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btw, new strong signals in town coming from new Airtel site on top of Minden Place car park.
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apps
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# Posted: 29 Apr 2008 20:50
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New Airtel applications
Application Reference S/2008/0648 Address Field 235, La Rue de la Petite Falaise, Trinity Date Last Advertised 08/04/2008 Application Type Satellite Dishes/Comms Antenna Status Pending Decision Applicant Mr T. Crabtree, Le Masurier House, St Helier JE2 4YE Description Installation of 1 No. wooden clad replica telegraph pole, 3 No. antennae, 1 No. dish & 4 No. equipment cabinets.
Application Reference S/2008/0734 Address Sun Bowls Club, La Rue es Nouaux, St. Helier - First Tower Date Last Advertised 15/04/2008 Application Type Satellite Dishes/Comms Antenna Status Pending Decision Applicant Mr T. Crabtree, Le Masurier House, St Helier JE2 4YE Description Installation of 1 No. replica flagpole, 1 No. antennae and 3 No. equipment cabinets.
Application Reference S/2008/0921 Address Harbour Office, Gorey Pier, St. Martin Date Last Advertised 29/04/2008 Status Pending Decision Applicant Mr T. Crabtree, Le Masurier House, St Helier JE2 4YE Description Installation of 1 No. replica flagpole, 1 No. dish and 2 No. equipment cabinets.
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Fred
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# Posted: 30 Apr 2008 17:24
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Well if the RF radiation gets any stronger at first tower you wil be able to cook your sunday roast out on the window sill! poor residents are being hammered enuf now from ES&M building.
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info
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# Posted: 3 May 2008 17:07
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I've found this JT one : Application Reference S/2007/2042 Address Waterfront Car Park, Marina Gardens, St. Helier Agent Mr T Knights, PO Box 53, 2nd Floor, St Helier JE4 8PB Description Remove existing installation. Install 1 No. replica flagpole and 1 No. antennae - one of the light poles looks slightly different to the others - south west corner of the lawn above the carpark. The warning sticker is a clue too :) (The portacabin with the panels has gone - this one replaces it)
Why do Sure and Airtel not put up RF Hazard warning signs like JT do? Isn't it a legal requirement?
As for Airtel's Application Reference S/2008/0648 Address Field 235, La Rue de la Petite Falaise, Trinity - no sign of any Site Notice along there!
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apps
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# Posted: 10 May 2008 18:37
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Airtel pole application for Field 235, La Rue de la Petite Falaise, Trinity is on the south side of the road approaching Bouley Bay, between the carpark at the common and the parish hall - not to be confused with Rue de la Falaise going south from Jardin d'Olivet
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agnes
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# Posted: 20 May 2008 03:28
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Dear Anonymous and Jersey Crew
What Do you expect from your politicians? They had such an easy time of "Ignoring and disregarding" the scandal of the childrens home for 40 years, even gave some of the abusers special favours and awards. And as it sems, knew about it the whole of the time.
And, These are the same folks, as then. So what do you expect?
That they have concerns towards you and your families because of Microwave Radiation that can harm you and your children? When they could look upon the abuse going on, and turn the blind eye for 40 years? Pull the other joke please.
No, your wellbeing is not a matter of concern to them, only your votes are!
So, get your people going for council seats, to start with, and then go for the county and assembly and that in a certain hurry, before they roll you over totally.
Like us in the rest of Britain you are the victims of State Treasury Economics. Nothing else counts! And please DO NOT under estimate the power of the cash the Telcos put into the Treasuries chests. It counts for a lot more that your or mine wellbeing.
That is the real reason why the studies that show the real harm are not included in the deliberations of the politicians. Yours or Ours!
CASH REALLY COUNTS! And politicians dont mind Dirty Money at all!
So, If we want to beat them, We have to join them and beat them from Within!
We are working on this in the UK at the moment. Start with the Parish Council and work our way to the County/Town councils boards, and then on to the assembly, and we are seeing progress here. So, think about it, who have you got who can spare some time to get elected to the nearest council? and attend the meetings, and spread the gospel? And tell your folks to Vote for Them!
There is no easy solution, well have to beat them at their own game, from within. Corruption is rife, and They (Telco) give fancy lunches, We dont.
So, get in the election shoes. Get elected, block the "Progress"! Best regards. Agnes
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donk
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# Posted: 4 Jun 2008 13:52
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Gsy masts BBC feature : http://www.bbc.co.uk/guernsey/content/articles/2007/10/25/phone_mast_map_feature.shtm l Are those the site numbers, I wonder?
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Buzzz
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# Posted: 10 Jul 2008 12:46
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A new RF threat - Jersey Water are testing Remote Meter Reading technology in the North East of the island. Numerous little aerials on poles seen in St.Martin, on JEC substations and on roadside signposts. Looks like they'd need quite a lot of these to cover the whole island.
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an_engineer
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# Posted: 12 Jul 2008 15:37
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Iv'e had a personal demo of the remote reading equipment and can confirm there is nothing to weorry about, it's not designed for all island coverage, they drive a van to within 50 feet of the station or fire hydrant to record the water pressure levels instead of opening drain covers, and the transmissions are only around 50 milliwatts at UHF, in comparison a handheld mobile phone is transmitting up to 2000 milliwatts or 2 watts at microwave frequencies next to your head!
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Buzzz
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# Posted: 16 Jul 2008 17:11
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Thanks for the info.
I know someone who lives just a few metres away from one and has suffered short bursts of TV interference from it (50mW is certainly enough to cause that at short range).
Can you tell us the frequency range and transmission characteristics (burst times and bandwidth, etc) please? Many thanks
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concerned
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# Posted: 22 Jul 2008 12:15
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The masts in Jersey are sadly often too close to domestic residential premises. The only effective action against the actual locating of masts appears to that which is drastic ( which I am not advocating ) ie the mast stops working. If there is any danger of mast failure it gets moved
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