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ericgeneric
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2014 14:10
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Yes, in the twilight zone that poses as today's media, 24/7 exposure to pulsed microwave radiation at levels thousands of times over the ICNIRP limits pose absolutely no harm to humans (the story of NOKIA's former boss crippled and incapacitated by EMR tech is nowhere to be seen of course), but...till receipts from your everyday shopping can give you cancer and diabetes.


http://money.aol.co.uk/2014/10/23/can-a-till-receipt-give-you-cancer/?ncid=webmail20

After this in yesterday's Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2801609/grandmother-72-spends-4-000-covering- house-anti-wi-fi-paint-suffering-health-problems-wireless-signals.html


So, we know where the danger really lies now. We can't be made ill by all the new technology and giant cell towers outside our windows. It's the paper bills we get with our shopping. Phew. Gentlemen, bring me more phone masts!

EG.

Henrik
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2014 19:21
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ericgeneric,

Shopping till receipts linked to cancer? We'll, I don't know enough about that to dismiss it but I'm tempted to speculate that the risk of cancer from receipts increases with the grand total printed on said receipt.

Sorry, one shouldn't joke about cancer risks.

But wait, this might be a trick by supermarkets to avoid customers checking their receipts so they can get away with charging that extra can of tomato soup here and there. They've been dreaming of rolling this scheme out for ages and doing test runs now and again - like that one time I went to the supermarket for bread and got charged a watermelon aswell. I caught them by checking the receipt, but that was of course, long before I was aware of the cancer risk.
Well, I'll do my part and just say no next time the nice lady at the supermarket asks if I want the receipt - so at least, she won't have to touch it for my sake.

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 23 Oct 2014 23:21 - Edited by: ericgeneric
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There may well be traces of some sort of harmful chemicals in receipts, but I'd imagine there are similar things in all kinds of everyday items; it just feels bizarre to put this as a headline - in such a dramatic way - just a day after denying there is ANY danger to humans (quite a categorical thing to claim) from EMR/Wi-Fi etc.

Then again, it just continues the media's attempts to pin the rapidly declining health and sanity of the public on ANYTHING except the phones and smart tech. So they choose something which the most number of people are likely to have come into regular contact with (ie shopping), very handy.

Last week it was coffee causes infertility in women, so all those women glued to their smartphones in cafes will one day have their inability to have children blamed on those daily lattes and cappucinos, not the mini phone mast stuck to their hand/ear/chest while they sat there every day.


EG.

Torment
# Posted: 24 Oct 2014 12:29
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I can collapse at the tills in shops.......Have you seen this from Revelations, could be referring to wifi/barcodes on/in our bodies :/

Revelations in the Bible...one of the Revelations seems to point toward wifi....

The Book of Revelation describes the end of cash and the creation of a cashless society in the last days where the possession of a certain number, "666," will be essential to enable you to "buy or sell." This was an astonishing prophecy when John proclaimed it in the first century: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six" (Revelation 13:16-18). However, we are already 95 percent cashless in America today. Studies reveal that less than 5 percent of the total money in our society exists as paper currency or coins. Revelation describes a time when the number 666 will be placed beneath the skin of the right hand or forehead. Recently, scientists developed a miniature computer chip the size of a dime. This tiny chip will hold as much information as contained in thirty complete sets of the Encyclopedia Britannica. This chip could also be configured in a shape the size of two grains of rice that could be injected beneath the skin. Your complete financial life records could be held by such a chip which could be read from a distance by electronic scanners. Business Week magazine reported on June 3, 1996, p.123, that MasterCard International is testing a "smart card" computer chip that includes information about your fingerprint and identity that can be embedded in a credit/debit card. Card scanners in stores and banks will scan your fingerprint and compare it to the information on the card to verify your identity. How could the apostle John have known that the future would hold such incredible technology unless God inspired him to write the words recorded in Revelation 13:16-18.

Henrik
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# Posted: 24 Oct 2014 13:54
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Torment

You wrote:
"How could the apostle John have known that the future would hold such incredible technology unless God inspired him to write the words recorded in Revelation 13:16-18."

Alright then, so God planned the enslavement of mankind and the current microwave blitzkrieg.

Torment, with all respect, I think you're reading too much into ancient scripture.
I'm not trying to start a quarrel about religion here, but Its like when people interpret the bibles description of the great flooding as a global event and kindof forget that the descriptions in ancient texts, like the bible, are most likely of local events - because back then transport was very primitive, making peoples reach very limited and thus they had no idea of what constituted the world, and even less, the concept of a planet.

Torment
# Posted: 24 Oct 2014 20:00
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Hi Henrik,

I wasn't really suggesting this was so, I just thought the interpretation was interesting. I am not religious....it wasn't meant to be taken seriously, I appreciate you didn't know this.

agnes
# Posted: 25 Oct 2014 01:32
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Hi guys.
Ericgeneric is totally right, there are loads of large UK shops, as I suppose there are elsewhere, who RIFD marke their stock.
This is read wirelessly at the till, at the same time as the "Shelf" notices one is missing and sends a wireless signal to the stockroom to tell them it needs a fill up.

The shops I Know for a fact use this in the UK are: Tesco and M&S.
But I am certain loads of others do as well, I just have not come across it, as they have not advertized it like these two have done.

But here are a couple of links you should look at: Dariusz was not finished with the Nokia CTO, so gave us this researced contribution.
http://www.mast-victims.org/index.php?content=news&action=view&type=newsitem&id=6602

And another thing, the EU are realizing they are frying us at home and at work, plus of course everywhere we go, so are goinbg to have a kind of Public Inquiry:
http://www.mast-victims.org/index.php?content=news&action=view&type=newsitem&id=6603

They must be really worried, as the EU seems to be a bottomless pit we all pour our hard earned money into, with out our blessing, so that they can use it on things they have not asked us if we agree with.

Just imagine, when we All get so sick (which of course will eventually happen) that everybodies NHS´s breaks down and cannot cope, and worse still, we´ll all be unable to go to work, so NO TAXES to pay for ours or their politicians and Civil servants extravagance, then they will be out of a paypackets as well!

And guess WHO will Not be Liable for the harm done!
Yes you guess right, the Wireless Industry, who are, as the Only Industrial Activity in the UK (and I suspect everywhere else as well) EXCUSED from having a Public Liability Insurance.
Reason, No Insurance Company was willing to give them a cover.
Any other industry, even one man firms, would have been closed down without a cover, But Government Interests made an Extemption in this case!
So, who is going to foot the eventual bill for the unavoidable bill for the health ravages this is causing.
Good guess, who else but us?
Best regards.
Agnes

agnes
# Posted: 25 Oct 2014 03:24
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What a poor research by the Daily Mail.

"However, other studies have found that using a mobile phone or wi-fi poses no damage to health"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2801609/grandmother-72-spends-4-000-covering- house-anti-wi-fi-paint-suffering-health-problems-wireless-signals.html#ixzz3H7AfDnjI

The person who put in this comment does not seem to realize that the IARC/WHO in may 2011 has classed Microwave Radiation as a 2b cancer causeing agent: http://www.iarc.fr/en/media-centre/pr/2011/pdfs/pr208_E.pd
They claim to do Serious research.
Shame on them, really Bad Journalism!
Agnes

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 26 Oct 2014 02:17
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The Daily Mail, like most newspapers, rely heavily on telecoms advertising and funding. They won't bite the hand that feeds them. So ignorant hacks are allowed to make ridiculous, lazy, inaccurate and damaging "reports" in the name of protecting the status quo. It's been like this for years. Same old same old. I stopped reading the comments/replies to these so-called articles a long time ago.

EG.

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 28 Oct 2014 01:06
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More blatant propaganda from the Daily Mail today....big promotion on the front page of how your Smartphone can make life easier....complete with image of a small child clutching one to their ear inside the paper.

This has got to be connected to the rising concerns of wi-fi/EMR/Smart tech saftey, the imminent EU seminar/debate in Brussels, and rising cases of brain tumours in Sweden and other major countries. The media have clearly been given the go-ahead by telecoms and governments to push Smartphones/Smart Meters and all this crap as much as they can before their luck runs out. And more people get sick, die or go crazy and kill their families/strangers.

EG.

Ann
# Posted: 28 Oct 2014 11:38
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Every time there is something relevant about wireless gadgets in DM I write a blog to say we should be careful they can cause illness but they never include the blog. However they print some of the rubbish and rudeness other people write. The media have long been bought by the wireless industry.

Agnes I think the future problems you are talking about have already began. The disability benefits are skyrocketing; the Arab countries are in turmoil; factories/farmers cannot get workers because they are poisoning themselves everyday on their computers.
Have you noticed whenever a journalist does his piece and shows the area in the news there are lots of mobile phone masts?
There is turmoil around the globe and people that have lived together for centuries are now fighting for their 'tribe' religion or whatever!
John Simpson did a piece about 'Wrold Disorder' but it was soon taken off the news. The BBC must not be seen to be scaremongering!

It is a pity the BBC is not doing anything about the wireless industry and illness because they do not depend on advertising, but they were severely criticised when they did one the Panorama programme a few years ago - the industry came down on them like a ton of bricks so we are on our own!

Annon
# Posted: 30 Nov 2014 16:56
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The Gov know about illnesses caused by 21century technology's.
Their understanding is that the future benefits will outway the negatives. The negatives being the suffering for many ; the benefits being that suffering will create a subdued emotion that eventually complies to the rules of enslavement.

This is a true statement !
Technology is used for easier and faster communication - but not in the way it is being portrayed to the general public - it is actually for the benefit of tagging every single human being in the world.
Where you go ; where you shop, eat, sleep, drink; who you visit, when, where and for how long. What you read in libraries, what you photocopy and take out.

Banks now are dishing out bank cards that have RFID chips sealed into card. This tracks your every movement even if you don't use the card but carry it on your person.
When you go into any store or business that have the RF barriers at the entrance ( to stop so called shop lifters ) then your card will be ID'd automatically.

If you complain to Bank and ask for a bank card free of the tracking chip they will refuse your request !!
You have to comply ! Next on the Government's agenda (very soon) is the implimentation of implant chips in the hand - mark of the Devil - but they will announce it as a perfect way of being able to just wave your hand to unlock , pay or start up/switch off appliances.

What you won't be told is that "THEY" will be able to control your thinking and emotional reactions by Radio Frequency's that connect with the implant chip - thus creating total enslavement.
Whenever you pass a mobile phone mast or lamppost pod you are tracked by either your bank card chip or implant chip.

Don't be nieve - wake up - this is real - find a way of not complying from today!
Keep bank card and mobile phone in a metal tin with sealed lid when not in use.
Purchase an old car with no fancy technology and keep in mind new tyre's have chip's embedded in them. Never use a mobile inside a car as the emissions are at their highest which can create severe headaches, anxiety and road rage.

Annon

agnes
# Posted: 30 Nov 2014 18:40
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Annon.
Ony the NEW bankcards carry an RIFD chip, and they are marked with a wireless sign.
If you demand it The banks will have to issue you with a "Sign For" card.
These are the cards from the infancy of the bankcards, (then called Cheque-cards)before they became credit and debit cards.
My husband and I have Never had a card that was not Only a "Sign for" and Never will.

The bank tries it on every time at renewal time, but we just flatly refuse them, take them back to them and they then issue us the "Sign For" cards.

A bigger worry we find now is when your branch (and most shops as well) offer the Customer Friendly "Free Wi-Fi" inhouse.

Inn the end that will put a stopper for most of us beeing able to use the Bank branches as well as the Supermarkets, and all our shopping will have to be limited to small local shops, butchers and greengrocers (if they can keep off the "Technology").

Best regards.
Agnes

De
# Posted: 30 Nov 2014 21:25
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Annon , whoever you are, you are certainly keeping up with what's going on. My only argument will be the rulers and law makers use of the technology extensively themselves, so who is benefiting from all this tracking?

Is that the so called contactless cards you are talking about? I put mine in the draw and never used it.
Also 'they' can get information overload. What is the point of tracking me - they wouldn't find out very much of any consequence. It is more sensible to do the tracking of a targeted group of people.

Annon
# Posted: 30 Nov 2014 22:40
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There is a revolution brewing !
The government know this and so they need to track individuals who may pose a problem in by creating or joining a resistance group.
If all this seems far fetched to you then you are not paying attention to what is really happening around you.
Real news will not come from mainstream news as they are fully versed in creating - perception/deception.
Alternative news is your eye opener.

There is no terrorism in this country except from those who try to create it by constantly harping on about it in order to convince the public that tighter security is needed. More CCTV .... More surveillance. ......More control of your movements......More body checks....and the list goes on !

This is not confined to certain areas like airports. This is moving at a fast pace like into your home. Did you know your TV sets have tiny camera's that can not only see you but can pick up conversions. There is no privacy if you wish to live in the material world. Many are choosing not to preferring to go off grid.
This is why the bombardment of these telecommunication structures in every town, county and village are important to the Government. No one will be free if they stay on grid.

Annon
# Posted: 1 Dec 2014 00:21
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Soon these technologies will be used as weapons against the population.
Microwave weaponry is already in use. Experimentations have been ongoing for a few years now with many members of the public being victims or TI's ( targeted individuals ) to RF or microwave blasting.
Check out on the web - Harassment of TI's or Gang Stalking of TI's.

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 1 Dec 2014 01:37
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Soon these technologies will be used as weapons against the population. Microwave weaponry is already in use. Experimentations have been ongoing for a few years now with many members of the public being victims or TI's ( targeted individuals ) to RF or microwave blasting.

Indeed they are. Being used against us, and being targeted on individuals. Quite what they seek to achieve with the latter, other than silencing via intimidation and/or killing, is unclear.

EG.

agnes
# Posted: 1 Dec 2014 01:58
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Annon.
Cool it a bit.

Microwave weapons are old news, someone posted a lot of scary stuff about it ca. 5 years ago, and we investigated.
But, You are going into weaponry gadgets, Notice that no-one else on this Forum, other than you takes up this subject.
We all know it happens but it is not one of the subjects of this Forum!
And this is NOT a Big Brother Site!

This Forum is manned by people who mostly Do not own a mobile phone or other wireless gadgets, Who do not own High Tech TV´s etc.
Reason, the radiation makes us sick!

The CCTV surveillance goes on mostly in the Cities and Towns, not in our villages.
My village does not have a single CCTV installed, and is highly unlikely to install one.

Many of us live in the "Sticks" forced to move by the installations of Mobile masts next to our homes which made us so sick we were forced to abandon our homes and find somewhere we could live without the 24/7/365 frying and the resulting sickness.

So,
1). Take your bankcard back to your bank and DEMAND a "Sign For"
card. That will be start of solving your problem.
2). Get rid of your mobile phone and or Dect/Bt homehub if you have them
Remember, a landline can also run a Wired router/modem.
And, recently as by miracle, BT found out that High-speed Broadband
can easily by run by Copper Wire.
3). Next, Opt out of a Smart Meter for the Grid, you can also do this by
law! For gas, electricity and water!
4). Next, if you have high tech TV swap it for a low tech one, and make
sure your antennae is a cheap one, which is Only a Receiver!
And if you have SKY or Virgin (or other for that matter) disk/connection,
ditch it, as that as well as Virgin, as some providers are wireless.
5). Rehome your microwave if you have one.

By following these commitments you will be Very Hard to trace.

But, please NO MORE rant about microwave weapons!
Regards.
Agnes
Owner of www.mast-victims.org

Annon
# Posted: 3 Dec 2014 10:42
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This is not meant to upset or cause any type of fear but it is imperative that true updated information gets out there to the people.
I am afraid that you Agnes are so far behind in understanding the newest technology techniques being used today and why they are being used.
The reason I chose this site is because before these technologies can be used they need base/ground structures (mobile mast base structures as antennas) which is the subject of your site.

I have since found out that more powerful emissions are being deployed from satellites orbiting earth and believe it or not the.....moon and mars !
No amount of shielding can protect not even Faraday cages.

What I'm really trying to explain is the only way to bring this to a halt until the evil doers who use this technology in a negative way are brought to justice is to immobilise these mast structures and antenna.

There is so much more to be said but to not disrespect you I will move on.
My job is to try and gently bring your viewers attention to further information that connects to issue's they are dealing with now so that they have a better understanding as to what is going on and how it all conects.

There comes a time when discussions need to be replaced with actions.

Thank you for time now I have other networks and forums to advise.

Arthur
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# Posted: 3 Dec 2014 17:08 - Edited by: Arthur
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Where are those networks and fora where you can be found, Annon?

ann
# Posted: 8 Dec 2014 20:43
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Annon,
Well you know what they say 'if you have nothing to hide' then what does it matter who knows what about you. I am aware of mainstream media trying to keep the truth from us but very often it is the BBC trying to shield us from too much doom and gloom. You know '.... lets finish with an nice little story about a nice little animal'.
I watch other news channels and believe me I'd rather have the BBC than RT who dish out propaganda continuously.
Also you obviously have not experienced life abroad where there really is tracking and persecution if you don't comply.
Why do you think the whole world wants to come here? because it is as free in this country as it could possibly be.
They can track me as much as they like they would find nothing, and voting is by secret ballot.
The fact that there is so much strife in the world is in part due to the electrosmog pollution that affects people's brains, but how much of that is deliberate we shall never know.

Torment
# Posted: 17 Dec 2014 18:29
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They are doing it.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30144072

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 18 Dec 2014 00:56
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""This is a fun thing, a conversation starter. It opens up interesting discussions about what it means to be human."

Yeah, so much fun. Hilarious!

Human stupidity knows no bounds....

EG.

ann
# Posted: 3 Jan 2015 15:59
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Eric, now I know what you are talking about! The implanted chip! When are people going to be dropping dead over these things? I suppose those that do so appear to die from heart attack or something sudden and the real reason is missed.
This Christmas I felt the effects of my ES after prolonged exposure. I went to a friend's to stay, who knows full well my problem and I also asked her and family to turn off their mobiles especially at night. They did not. All night I could not sleep then in the morning I felt sick, dizzy and tired. I felt depressed and very anxious. I would have worried about these symptoms had I not recognised them as ES. I also felt angry that they did not take any notice of my request to turn their mobiles off.
Anyway I lasted the 2 days I was there but it reminded me of how ill I can get with continuous exposure to microwaves and I even think I am not as bad as some people. I normally manage to have some normality in my life with limited exposure.

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 3 Jan 2015 22:00
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When are people going to be dropping dead over these things? I suppose those that do so appear to die from heart attack or something sudden and the real reason is missed.

I am sure they're already dropping dead, but it's "blamed" on something, anything else. And the cancer epidemic is going to be explained away as just something that happens, with nothing you can do about it, a matter of "luck":

http://www.natureworldnews.com/articles/11592/20150103/getting-cancer-is-really-just- bad-luck.htm

So that's okay then. The normalisation of cancerous diseases, and babies, kids, young people getting "cancer", already in full flow across all media, will prepare the public for simply accepting this vague, lame explanation for what's happening to us. Job done!

EG.

Henrik
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# Posted: 6 Jan 2015 15:23
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ericgeneric,

The latest "cancer is just bad luck" media stunt is just jaw-droppingly amazing. All the cancer societies are jumping on it because it helps them justify why they've nothing to show for all the money they've taken in their "war on cancer" .

Well, how do you explain a sudden increase in "bad luck" ???
This "bad luck" seems to be distributed over the entire population. That's a whole new metric to consider when doing epidemiological studies: "luck". Unbelievable.

Anyone with a brain and even cursory knowledge of epidemiology can figure out that a sudden change in health status distributed over a large group of people (that are spread over a large geographical area) is due to a sudden change in an environmental factor common to that group.

As Bruce Lipton PhD - a pioneering cell biologist - puts it: "its the environment, stupid!"

DNA is in itself extremely stable so the "random mutations" that the press articles are now blaming for the "bad luck" cancers must come from environmental factors. Its that simple.

The mammoth is still in the room. Now its just been covered in wallpaper. Luckily, wallpaper can be peeled off in large sheets.

M
# Posted: 6 Jan 2015 16:04
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and, today'sBBC news


Cancer crisis: Cases to reach 'record high in 2015'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30682088


with the current and ever increasing enforced exposures to microwave radiation from phone masts etc, it is hardly surprising.

Tess
# Posted: 18 Jan 2015 17:01
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We are just going backwards to the days when fate and magic and curse ruled the minds. We have had 500 years of science only to be told 'it is bad luck'.
We used to be told to look for cause and effect. You do an experiment and you look for connections, explanations - observations and make conclusions. We feel a change in our health and we make observations of what might have caused that change.
Now, in the 21st century we are told - don't worry it just happens. But hay .... it suits the big companies out there - the pharmaceuticals, the mobile phone and related wireless companies. The doctors and carers are all making their fortunes so who cares? Just keep taking your tablets and have your treatment because you cannot do anything to help yourself..
Avoidance measures don't get a look-in.
The NHS is bursting at the seams

ann
# Posted: 18 Jan 2015 17:30
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We know that chemicals, viruses and radiation cause cancer. This is well established and even taught at school. Yet we use chemicals without question in our food and homes. Spray cleaning products are very popular. Radiation is used without question in many treatments and of course the radiation given off by wireless gadgets is not even considered as harmful, so is it surprising that cancers have become common? And it is not just the old that explain the increase, for youngsters are getting cancers more than ever before.
E.g. in my family:
Those in their 80s most are still alive or have died of heart disease in old age.
Those in their 60s are all still alive and well.
Those in their 20s and 30s three have already had cancer.
I cannot pretend this is representative of the human race but we cannot ignore that young people are getting cancer where there was none in the family previously.

ericgeneric
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# Posted: 18 Jan 2015 18:08
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http://www.lgcplus.com/news/exclusive-public-health-england-probes-life-expectancy-al ert/5078130.article

Hmmm.

No doggy-do, Mr Holmes....

EG.

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